shower cans

[chris1971]

2, 6" recessed cans in a shower and the shower head is coming out of the ceiling in between the two cans. Cans will have shower trim pieces installed. Does anyone see any issues or violations with this configuration?

 

[kbsparky]

Nope. Nadda.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Sounds good to me

 

[chris1971]

That's what I thought. Always nice to get a second, third, fifth or 69TH opinion. Thanks.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

You do realize even though we may be correct on this, it may not stop an inspector from red tagging it. If it is a shower trim than I believe they are good for wet location even though it may not be subject to shower spray.

Article 410.10(D) is what you need to fight.:grin:

 

[chris1971]

Thanks. I will check with the ahj.

 

[electricmanscott]

Thanks. I will check with the ahj.

Bet he says gfi it.

 

[flashlight]

Bet he says gfi it.

Ideally, I would protect those w/ GFI, though not required.

 

[quogueelectric]

Hey you cant live forever!! BTW I allways gfci shower lighting anyway. Small expense to me and huge possible benefit if the worst were to happen

 

[electricmanscott]

What are you guys preventing by gfci protecting a shower light?

 

[iwire]

What are you guys preventing by gfci protecting a shower light?

Natural selection.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I have put in hundreds of shower cans and never once have I used GFCI protection. As far as I know I haven't lost a client thru death in the shower yet.

IMO, the NEC would have that code changed if someone got hurt in the shower from a situation like this.

 

[GeorgeB]

What are you guys preventing by gfci protecting a shower light?

Homeowner relamping with his hand on shower control, especially if the lamp is broken. However, plastic plumbing may make this moot depending on water conductivity.

Yes, I know working hot is wrong, but there is nothing preventing unmarked (3-way) switches.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Homeowner relamping with his hand on shower control, especially if the lamp is broken. However, plastic plumbing may make this moot depending on water conductivity.

Yes, I know working hot is wrong, but there is nothing preventing unmarked (3-way) switches.

Do you GFCI protect lights over the bathroom or kitchen sinks. Gee a homeowner in sorts jumps up on the counter, kneeling, his knees hit the faucet and he re-lamps the fixture. OMG, he's dead. :grin:

 

[iwire]

Homeowner relamping with his hand on shower control, especially if the lamp is broken. However, plastic plumbing may make this moot depending on water conductivity.

Yes, I know working hot is wrong, but there is nothing preventing unmarked (3-way) switches.

See post 11.

 

[George Stolz]

Do you GFCI protect lights over the bathroom or kitchen sinks. Gee a homeowner in sorts jumps up on the counter, kneeling, his knees hit the faucet and he re-lamps the fixture. OMG, he's dead. :grin:

You know, I usually hang a hard hat in the kitchen to prevent the homeowner from hitting their head on the cabinet as they're climbing up to relamp the fixture. Don't need a lawsuit, you know.

 

[stars13bars2]

I got a red tag once for no gfci on shower can light and to get it passed I had to provide spec sheet for can and trim to prove the mfg. didn't recommend gfci when used in shower.

 

[infinity]

I got a red tag once for no gfci on shower can light and to get it passed I had to provide spec sheet for can and trim to prove the mfg. didn't recommend gfci when used in shower.

Are there actually manufacturers that require GFCI protection for shower lights? I've yet to see one. IMO the inspector should not have given you a red tag in the first place. There was no violation.

 

[electricmanscott]

Natural selection.

Why prevent that!

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Are there actually manufacturers that require GFCI protection for shower lights? I've yet to see one.

I think someone saw that a fan light needs GFCI protection over a shower, at least all the ones I have done require it, and they assumed all equipment over a shower needs it.