SimPull conductors-2

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We pulled 2 runs today using SimPull conductors from Southwire. One pull was (4) 2/0 and (1)#2 through 135' of 2 inch PVC w/2 90? bends. We used no lube and it pulled easily. We did use a Greenlee Lil Tugger but for the last 6' I pulled on the conductors while 2 other guys shoved on the other end. One yank yielded 6'.
The second pull was 200' of (4) 500kcmil in 4" PVC w/2 90? and 1 45? we used a Greenlee 640 Tugger and it went well also. We were able to pull each conductor individually an additional 6' by hand to finish the pull.
I was impressed with the SimPull.
 
I agree the stuff is kind of slippery when compared to traditional THHN. Also the jacket seems a little softer which makes it easier to bend at the terminations. One downside is that the softer outer jacket seems to tear more easily that the stubborn old nylon on regular THHN.
 
infinity said:
I agree the stuff is kind of slippery when compared to traditional THHN.
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amptech, how long was the second pull? You used a tugger.

Three parallel 3" conduits with four 300's and a 1/0 over 170' long we pull with 5 guys and a gallon of Clear-Gluide. No tugger set up time.(I do have one on hand if I need it)

I've told you all the bad thing about this stuff is if you drag a whole bunch through the sand it's a
bi_ _ _ to drag and feed!
 
Chris, It was 200'with 2 90s and a 45. That's more than 1000lbs of conductor. We did 3 of these and I wouldn't want to do them without a tugger.
 
celtic said:
This months EC&M mag. had a cd from Southwire about SimPull...I have yet to view it.
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I watched the DVD last night. Impressive situation, they did a whole stadium without any lube.

Anyone know if the cost is higher than the regular stuf?
 
kbsparky said:
Anyone know if the cost is higher than the regular stuf?
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According to SW's website, there is no price premium for SimPull.

"This is a revolutionary product," says Brian McCardel, Southwire director of construction products. "Eliminating lubricant from the pulling process is a major change, and those who use No Lube THHN will have a competitive edge. Best of all, there's no price premium over traditional THHN."
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amptech said:
Chris, It was 200'with 2 90s and a 45. That's more than 1000lbs of conductor. We did 3 of these and I wouldn't want to do them without a tugger.
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Well your a brave man to do that without lube. Your guys didn't find it hard to feed?
 
It wasn't hard to feed at all. Being able to pull individual conductors by hand an additional few feet when we were done was amazing to me. Keeping the conductors clean while feeding wasn't a problem either. I always put down heavy visqueen between the reel stands and the pipes we're feeding to prevent scraping the conductors or picking up dirt. The floor was broomed concrete and it was rough. I don't think I was being too brave. I have had experience with SimPull with/without lube on previous pulls that were shorter. It wasn't my first rodeo. When I do use lube I use Aquagel.
 
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I asked George, and he said it would be all right for me to put Southwire's Wire Pulling Manual up for download.

You can download Southwire's "Installation and Application Guide for 600V Conductors" at http://www.southwire.com/Southwire/...HHNInstallationandApplicationGuide8-15-07.pdf.

This guide was written specifically for commercial installations. It also includes instructions for using lubricant in a pull if SIMpull THHN is not being installed. I am the technical editor for this guide and welcome all feedback to XXXXXXXX. Of course, I will also continue to check the forum for comments.

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