Sink on peninsula

[LarryFine]

Here it is in plain English:

For an island:
Each space 1x2' or bigger needs a receptacle. If there's a sink or appliance that squeezes the surface to 1' or narrower, then there are two spaces, and the 1x2' rule applies to each half.

For a peninsula:
The space of the side toward the wall starts at the depth of the countertop away from the wall. Only one receptacle is required unless there is a speparation of space as above.

Added: The tip-of-the-peninsula rule is always enforced, but the toward-the-wall side often slips by with the wall-space receptacles serving all the way to the space interruption.

The "within 2' of each side of the sink" rule applies to wall-space countertops, not islands or peninsulas. The rule isn't that every sink requires a receptacle within 2', it's the rule we already know.

 

[glene77is]

Alfie,
I checked the SillLite website.
Neat product.

In remodeling, I have run romex behind the baseboard, etc., thoroughly protected.
Is there a NEC code concerning this? I'll have to look-up this one.

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[glene77is]

Tony,

" I would hate to have to walk around that bad boy all the time while Im cooking. "
I am with you.

Just imagine what the home owner is saying
about the electrician who only put one receptical on one side of the counter top.
We all need to encourage return business.

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[Pierre C Belarge]

See 210.52(C)(2) & (4)

The wording of 210.52(C) is different for 2005 & 2008

 

[480sparky]

Personally I would have put one on the other end of that huge island. appliances only come with a two foot cord and I personally would be really irritated if I spent all that money, had all that space and could only plug into one spot. But hey thats just me. And I dont give it for free either, i just work stuff like that into the price. I really enjoy wiring high end kitchens and making them user friendly. But then again people that buy really high end kitchens dont cook anyway so I guess you did the right thing. Thats not the main sink is it? it looks really small!

.....Just imagine what the home owner is saying about the electrician who only put one receptical on one side of the counter top.........

Fine if it was your kitchen, but it's Dave & Jenny's. They're the ones cuttin' me a check every two weeks, so the recep goes where they want it, as long as it's to Code. Whole job is T&M. We discussed receptacle placement for about an hour, so I was paid for 'consulting' on the matter. One on the end of the island (towards the stove) was discussed, and Jenny said she didn't want cords hanging off over the edge of the c'top. If all they want is one receptacle, and it meets code, I'm under no further obligation to provide more. And no it's not the main sink. Pix was taken with my back to that.

Although the kitchen was designed by a pro, I really don't care for it. The three paths between the sink, stove & fridge should be clear, and the island blocks the path between the main sink & fridge as well as partially blocking between the stove and fridge.

 

[ivsenroute]

Under 2005

A peninsular counter space with a sink will require 2 because 210.52(C)(4) applies to 210.52(C)(3). Same goes for islands.

If you have a peninsula or an island with no sink then only 1 is required.

What is the language in the 08 code?

 

[billsnuff]

210.52(c) '08

210.52(c) '08

Countertops. In kitchens, pantries, breakfast rooms, dining rooms, and similiar areas of dwelling units, receptacle outlets for countertop spaces shall be installed in accordance with 210.52(C)(1) throught (C)(5).
Where a range, counter-mounted cooking unit, or sink is installed in an island or peninsular countertop and the width of the countertop behind the........sink is considered to divide the countertop space into two seperate countertop spaces as defined in 210.52(C)(4). Each seperate countertop space shall comply with the applicable requirements in 210.52(C).

 

[cadpoint]

Thanks to all, the boss said he'd handle it.

I can only assume he's a guest! :roll:

Great responses as always !!!

 

[tonyou812]

Fine if it was your kitchen, but it's Dave & Jenny's. They're the ones cuttin' me a check every two weeks, so the recep goes where they want it, as long as it's to Code. Whole job is T&M. We discussed receptacle placement for about an hour, so I was paid for 'consulting' on the matter. One on the end of the island (towards the stove) was discussed, and Jenny said she didn't want cords hanging off over the edge of the c'top. If all they want is one receptacle, and it meets code, I'm under no further obligation to provide more. And no it's not the main sink. Pix was taken with my back to that.

But I guess these people were stretched a bit thin. No molding on the Cabinets?

Although the kitchen was designed by a pro, I really don't care for it. The three paths between the sink, stove & fridge should be clear, and the island blocks the path between the main sink & fridge as well as partially blocking between the stove and fridge.

Hey dude I wasn't criticizing your work I was just commenting on what I would have done. Everyone has their nich here and for me being an ex Chef I really enjoy doing nice kitchens and I always try to upsell the customers on things that I think they would like or consider usefull in the future. And I always make it a point to let them know that I was a chef in the City.

I love trying to sell them more stuff. Its all those college years working as a waiter and trying to get my check average up so I would get a bigger tip. And I dont do it like a pushy salesman. More like someone that is as exicted about their kitchen as they are. Making them feel good about their purchases is always a good thing.

 

[radiopet]

Under 2005

A peninsular counter space with a sink will require 2 because 210.52(C)(4) applies to 210.52(C)(3). Same goes for islands.

So you are saying Mike Holts illustrations showing a island with a sink in the middle but the space between the back of the sink and the counter edge is 12" or more would require (2) receptacles......thats not how I read it in the 2005 NEC.

If you are saying 210.52(C)(4) covers all examples then why give the language in 210.52(C)(2) regarding what determines if the island is broken into (1) or (2) islands based on the specifics of 210.52(C)(2). ( 2005 NEC )