Smart switch not requiring a neutral

[nizak]

I’m trying to find a smart switch that I can install in an existing box that has no neutral.

I need to then have a wireless companion switch to work with it.

I’ve used the Caseta switches and the Pico remote switch but it requires a neutral and there’s no way to fish into the existing box.

I’ve found a Leviton product with no neutral requirement but it needs a bridge to function.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[hillbilly1]

You can get the Cassettas that do not require a neutral. I’ve used both.

 

[nizak]

You can get the Cassettas that do not require a neutral. I’ve used both.

Ok. The Cassettas I found said neutral is required.

I will dig deeper.

Do they also work with a Pico remote?

 

[curt swartz]

That standard Caseta Diva does not require a neutral.

DVRF-6LXX

 

[hillbilly1]

It says hub required, but only if you’re using the WiFi to control.

 

[hillbilly1]

Ok. The Cassettas I found said neutral is required.

I will dig deeper.

Do they also work with a Pico remote?

Yes

 

[herding_cats]

Check out Shelly IO. Requires neutral but really clever devices.

 

[nizak]

You can get the Cassettas that do not require a neutral. I’ve used both.

Ok. The Cassettas I found said neutral is required.

I will dig deeper.

Do they also work with a Pico remote?

That standard Caseta Diva does not require a neutral.

DVRF-6LXX

Im finding that part# as being a dimmer.

Is there a Caseta part# requiring no neutral that’s not a dimmer.

Thank you.

 

[AC\DC]

Check out Shelly IO. Requires neutral but really clever devices.

He said no neutral

 

[curt swartz]

Claro Smart Switch | Caséta by Lutron

Elevate your home lighting with the Claro Smart Switch, offering a classic paddle design, easy installation, and versatile control options, perfect for outdoor lights and timers.

www.casetawireless.com

 

[hillbilly1]

Is there a Caseta part# requiring no neutral that’s not a dimmer.

Thank you.

Not a dimmer is the hard part, you didn’t mention that in the original post, Caseta website says no.

 

[herding_cats]

Seems like this device operates gaining neutral from ground. I would be curious if it can operate without ground?

 

[hillbilly1]

Seems like this device operates gaining neutral from ground. I would be curious if it can operate without ground?

The neutral is required for the electronics to charge. The old models used the ground to charge the electronics. Very small capacitive current. Some motion sensors come with a green sleeve to put on the white wire if the ground is used. Same principle.

 

[curt swartz]

Sorry, I forgot to say my link was just to show a neutral is required for switch only.

What are you controlling? Not a light?

 

[marmathsen]

Caséta PD-5WS-DV switch does not require a neutral

Caseta Wireless | Troubleshooting | Caséta Wireless In-Wall Switches - PD-5WS-DV, PD-5ANS, PD-6ANS

This article will provide information related to the various options for Caseta Wireless switches and how to install / program them.

support.lutron.com

Rob G
Seattle

 

[curt swartz]

Caséta PD-5WS-DV switch does not require a neutral

Caseta Wireless | Troubleshooting | Caséta Wireless In-Wall Switches - PD-5WS-DV, PD-5ANS, PD-6ANS

This article will provide information related to the various options for Caseta Wireless switches and how to install / program them.

support.lutron.com

Rob G
Seattle

I never even looked at the older models. We had so many problems with the older products not working well with LED's I refused to install them anymore. The Diva and Claro devices work much better.

In reality we seldom use Caseta unless the customer asks for a couple switches to be installed and they will deal with the setup themselves.
If a customer asks for "smart switches" I just go with RadioRA3 or Homeworks for total home control with shades,

 

[marmathsen]

I never even looked at the older models. We had so many problems with the older products not working well with LED's I refused to install them anymore. The Diva and Claro devices work much better.

In reality we seldom use Caseta unless the customer asks for a couple switches to be installed and they will deal with the setup themselves.
If a customer asks for "smart switches" I just go with RadioRA3 or Homeworks for total home control with shades,

I'll admit, I haven't used this model. I only came across it on the Lutron website. Looking at this chart, it may not work unless an LUT-MLC can be installed somewhere. It may be that it's not available anymore anyway if it's an old model like Curt mentioned.


Rob G
Seattle