smoking router

[roger]

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Jim

Originally posted by jimwalker:
where did i say i would blame someone else ?
All i am saying is if i good i exspect the company to pick the tab up.It is part of doing buisness.If he bids a job to take 20 man hours and run into OT and me and my helper get it done by 2pm i don't exspect anything more than "you did i good job " no extra money exspected.Win some lose some.If i cost him too much he will fire me.If i keep making a high profit i get a raise.But if he steals from me he should exspect to get hurt.Or would you just say sure boss take whatever you want for any reason.

what does that defense have to do with your condemnation of a HI?

Are you back peddling now?

Address the point of how your going back on an employer for your short commings is different than a HI who may miss a small problem or make an issue out of a small problem and be looked down upon by someone like you.

BTW, haven't you said you once held a license?

Roger

 

[jimwalker]

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Roger i dont think were on the same page.All im saying is if i hire a HI and he goofs in not finding what he should that his company should be willing to pay the bill.They charge a profeshional fee .Sure they miss some things that's to be exspected.But to have no liability for mistakes hardly seems fair.The idea of a HI is great but it needs to have value per $

 

[johna]

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Of course if a HI screws up, he or she should be responsible. Last week I apparently dislodged a wire while inspecting a high-efficiency gas water heater, leaving the residents without hot water. I paid the plumber's bill of $100 immediately and without argument. But you can't go into someone else's house (remember, the buyer is my client, and he doesn't own the house yet) and move their furniture and belongings all over the place and unplug all their stuff, like computers that they left on when they left the house for the inspection. The fact that the home inspection is a LIMITED inspection, in many ways, is something we home inspectors and our clients have to constantly remind ourselves. It's a very valuable service, but, as I tell my clients, it is not realistic to think that the inspection is going to ELIMINATE their risk in buying the house, only that it will REDUCE their risk.

 

[roger]

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OK Jim I'll let this go after this post.

All im saying is if i hire a HI and he goofs in not finding what he should that his company should be willing to pay the bill.

and using your argument, when you are hired by an EC after you represent yourself as an electrician, and you goof, should you (as an the professional electrician entity) be responsible for the cost. Yes in your stance

This is what you are saying the HI should do.

Your position is a perfect example of "the pot calling the kettle black" :roll:

Roger

 

[pqtest]

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Hello johna,

I read the post and did not see the age if this building- any idea when it was built?

This problem could be an indication of a floating neutral condition at the transformer. As different electrical loads are used inside the home it is possible to "shift" voltages between phases. One phase will read higher and the other will read lower- either condition can cause overheating and destruction of electrical and electronic loads.

If you have a copy available, Ferms Fast Finder gives an excellent explanation as to how this can occur. (Ferms is a publication of the IAEI)

Thanks, and Happy New Year everybody,

Mark

 

[johna]

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The building is about 80 years old. It is an apartment/condo building in Merion, PA, just outside Philadelphia.

 

[luke warmwater]

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johna,
just curious, do HI's have to have be licensed (a business license) in each township that they work in?
If you were to say, go to into Lower Marion, Springfield, Ridley Park, Upper Chichester, Chester, Brookhaven, Marion, etc. to do inspections, do you have to have each of those township's business license?
Some of those townships are great to work in, others are flat out horrible.

 

[johna]

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Only Philadelphia has a home inspector license requirement, which was just recently implemented. Other towns and cities may follow suit, but I don't know of any now.
The Commonwealth doesn't have an actual license, although that is probably going to happen in the near future. There is a state home inspector law which all inspectors are supposed to comply with, but enforcement is spotty to non-existent (not that I'm encouraging anyone to ignore it!)

 

[pqtest]

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johna-

You are in luck. In PA you have a PQ interest group called the Delaware Valley Power Quality Group:

http://www.dvpqg.org/

If I recall correctly, Mike Holt spoke to them recently at their monthly meeting.

I don't know if they have ever covered the subject that you are asking about, but try giving them a call.

Also, if anybody else is aware of other power quality groups, please PM me their information. I am aware of only one other: the Arizona Power Quality Association www.apqa.org

Mark

 

[luke warmwater]

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johna,
you missed my question.

I wasn't asking about a home inspector's license.

I was asking about a business license.

I doubt one could run a successful HI business in one township. So I was wondering if you get a business license in all of the townships in which you work.

 

[johna]

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Business license also only in Philly, as far as I know.

 

[jimwalker]

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and using your argument, when you are hired by an EC after you represent yourself as an electrician, and you goof, should you (as an the professional electrician entity) be responsible for the cost. Yes in your stance

Big differance,if the EC hires me it is for an agreed on price per hour.For $xxx i agree to work for him and he knows i will make a few mistakes.This is understood at hiring.If i do piece work then he exspects me to repair the mistake for the same amount that was agreed upon.
Should i do work for his customer and it needs redone he knows he will foot the bill.I think a HI has as much responsibility to the customer as the EC does.Customer is intitled to get what they paid for.If HI clearly makes it known up front that his inspection is not something to take to the bank then all i paid for is an opinion of questional value.