Spare cables

[hhsting]

If i have spare cables not feeding any load fed from panelboard feeder breaker then they must terminate in junction box? I cant find correct section in NEC 2017

 

[don_resqcapt19]

If the are not connected to a load, they should not be connected to the breaker.

 

[infinity]

If they're not energized then a junction box is not necessary.

 

[hhsting]

If they're not energized then a junction box is not necessary.

What if they are energized but not feeding anything?

 

[don_resqcapt19]

What if they are energized but not feeding anything?

Why would anyone want to do that???

 

[hhsting]

Why would anyone want to do that???

Spare future use who know

 

[don_resqcapt19]

Spare future use who know

I would find a reason to hang a red tag, even if I have to make something up.

Connecting conductors to a power source, with nothing connected at the other end is just asking for an accident to happen.

I was always taught that the very last connection made to a circuit is to the power source. You only do that after everything else is connected.

 

[Eddie702]

I would find a reason to hang a red tag, even if I have to make something up.

Connecting conductors to a power source, with nothing connected at the other end is just asking for an accident to happen.

I was always taught that the very last connection made to a circuit is to the power source. You only do that after everything else is connected.

Agree 100% but if the load end is in a J box and they are taped or wire nutted I don't think it is a violation.

 

[hhsting]

Agree 100% but if the load end is in a J box and they are taped or wire nutted I don't think it is a violation.

Where is the code section NEC 2017 for this?

 

[electrofelon]

Where is the code section NEC 2017 for this?

 

[don_resqcapt19]

Where is the code section NEC 2017 for this?

There isn't one as far as I know

 

[don_resqcapt19]

Agree 100% but if the load end is in a J box and they are taped or wire nutted I don't think it is a violation.

If they are capped or terminated in a box, it would not be a violation, but I would try very strongly to convince them to determ the conductors at the breaker.

 

[hbiss]

There isn't one as far as I know

I think it could be considered an outlet even if it is not connected to anything.

-Hal

 

[augie47]

I would use 300.15:

Where the wiring method is conduit, tubing, Type AC cable, Type MC cable, Type MI cable, nonmetallic-sheathed cable, or other cables, a box or conduit body shall be installed at each conductor splice point, outlet point, switch point, junction point, termination point, or pull point, unless otherwise permitted in 300.15(A) through (L).

 

[Strathead]

There isn't one as far as I know

Actually 300.18A requires the conduit run to be complete prior to installation of the conductors. 300.15 requires a box for termination of conductors. I consider this the references to require what the OP is asking.

 

[electrofelon]

Here's another one: What code section requires me to use insulated conductors in conduit?

 

[Seven-Delta-FortyOne]

Here's another one: What code section requires me to use insulated conductors in conduit?

All of table 310.16(b) for starters.

 

[Seven-Delta-FortyOne]

What if they are energized but not feeding anything?

Have you found an actual electrician desiring to do something this stupid, or is this hypothetical?

 

[infinity]

If the cable is not connected on either end then it is not a wiring method becuase it's not wiring anything.

 

[Little Bill]

I was under a house doing some wiring and found a 12-2 NM cable with a tag saying "spare". I decided to check and see if it was live and sure enough it was. I turned the breaker off and took the conductor out of the breaker. I don't know if the installer turned the breaker on or whether the HO turned it on. Either way it shouldn't have been able to be energized as it was just hanging exposed in the the crawl space. No junction box, wire nuts, tape, nothing!