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Alwayslearningelec

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I've been seeing these receptacles a lot more often on jobs. I posted a question recently about one.

This one has no wiring detail but would obviouly need two hots based on the circuits shown, correct? What about the neutral? Two of them needed? One of the outlets in the duplex is fed from sa relay panel so that may change neutral requirements.


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I don't know what the plan is showing with both circuit numbers but if it's one circuit it's one hot, one switch leg, and one neutral. The receptacle tab on the hot side is broken.

If it's two circuits both side tabs are broken.
 
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roger said:
I don't know what the plan is showing with both circuit numbers but if it's one circuit it's one hot, one switch leg, and one neutral. The receptacle tab on the hot side is broken.

If it's two circuits both side tabs are broken.
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I assume one circuit is the relay panel and one is the power panel. Haven't gotten that far yet.
 
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Alwayslearningelec said:
It's say one of the circuits from relay panel ...not sure of that changes anything.
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So it's two different circuits? They cannot be on the same receptacle yoke without being able to simultaneously disconnect them which is not possible if the two circuits originate in different panels.
 
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This is a pic of the relay panel schedule on the drawings. The UP-1 panels are power panel. You can see Up-1 circuit #28 is a controlled receptacle. So IMO the circuit runs from the power panel to the relay panel and out to the load(receptacle). Just not sure if any additonal wiring because of the relay panel.

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Well looking at the panel schedule it sure looks like ech receptacle is fed from two circuits. So I DO need 2 hots from each receptacle. I wonder if, since this job is separate neutrals, I need 2 neutrals as well. Does that make sense?
I guess one circuit is run through the relay panel befoe both circuits join in a common conduit out to the load.

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Here is a floor box layout with each box getting 2 circuits. All boxes have the SAME two circuits, 26 & 47.

They are calling for 4 #10 and 1 #10G. I can't figure out the engineers thinking here related to qty of hots and neutrals. Assumming it's 2 hots and 2 neutrals.

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Alwayslearningelec said:
Well looking at the panel schedule it sure looks like ech receptacle is fed from two circuits. So I DO need 2 hots from each receptacle. I wonder if, since this job is separate neutrals, I need 2 neutrals as well. Does that make sense?
I guess one circuit is run through the relay panel befoe both circuits join in a common conduit out to the load.
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As stated in post #6 the circuits will have to be tied.
 
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