Split Control

[Alwayslearningelec]

I've been seeing these receptacles a lot more often on jobs. I posted a question recently about one.

This one has no wiring detail but would obviouly need two hots based on the circuits shown, correct? What about the neutral? Two of them needed? One of the outlets in the duplex is fed from sa relay panel so that may change neutral requirements.

 

[roger]

I don't know what the plan is showing with both circuit numbers but if it's one circuit it's one hot, one switch leg, and one neutral. The receptacle tab on the hot side is broken.

If it's two circuits both side tabs are broken.

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

I don't know what the plan is showing with both circuit numbers but if it's one circuit it's one hot, one switch leg, and one neutral. The receptacle tab on the hot side is broken.

If it's two circuits both side tabs are broken.

I assume one circuit is the relay panel and one is the power panel. Haven't gotten that far yet.

 

[infinity]

Not sure what #1 and #49 means but you cannot have two circuits on one receptacle if there is no way to simultaneously disconnect both circuits.

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

Not sure what #1 and #49 means but you cannot have two circuits on one receptacle if there is no way to simultaneously disconnect both circuits.

It's say one of the circuits from relay panel ...not sure of that changes anything.

 

[infinity]

It's say one of the circuits from relay panel ...not sure of that changes anything.

So it's two different circuits? They cannot be on the same receptacle yoke without being able to simultaneously disconnect them which is not possible if the two circuits originate in different panels.

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

So it's two different circuits? They cannot be on the same receptacle yoke without being able to simultaneously disconnect them which is not possible if the two circuits originate in different panels.

I'm going to investigate.thanks

 

[infinity]

I'm going to investigate.thanks

It could actually be one circuit with half the receptacle routed through a control relay. As you've stated some further investigating needs to be done.

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

It could actually be one circuit with half the receptacle routed through a control relay. As you've stated some further investigating needs to be done.

I think so. I found this online and think the middle diagram is what I have.

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

This is a pic of the relay panel schedule on the drawings. The UP-1 panels are power panel. You can see Up-1 circuit #28 is a controlled receptacle. So IMO the circuit runs from the power panel to the relay panel and out to the load(receptacle). Just not sure if any additonal wiring because of the relay panel.

 

[roger]

Then each receptacle is fed from one circuit regardless of a relay panel. So as I said, you will have one hot conductor, one switch leg, and one neutral.