Square D Contactor... need urgent help!

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bjp_ne_elec

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just got a call from a buddy of mine in Colorado....apparently yesterday an EC and a JW were working on a carwash system, when the EC realized the JW was a complete idiot....the EC just broke down and killed the JW with his bare hands....EC is sitting in the pen on a $1mil bail...think that could be greg and his man?

I'm starting to think that Emahler's post isn't a ruse - I'm searching for Colorado news reports to confirm his post.

If Greg can get his call in to his lawyer, at least make a request to his attorney to have him post a reply in Greg's name, so we know how the issue was resolved. Hopefully Greg resolved the issue with the controller before he addressed the employee.
 

K2X

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Be nice. The j-man probably reads these forums as does the A-man....

Some of us, (including me), are not allowed to talk shop on the weekends. I, however, tell my wife i'm going out to chop a cord of wood and have my laptop set up in the woodshed.:D
 

emahler

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girl -"who's switch is that?"

guy- "it's not a switch, it's a contactor"

girl - "who's contactor is that?"

guy - "Greg's"

girl - "who's Greg?"

guy - "Greg's dead, baby, Greg's dead"
 

emahler

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I'm starting to think that Emahler's post isn't a ruse - I'm searching for Colorado news reports to confirm his post.

If Greg can get his call in to his lawyer, at least make a request to his attorney to have him post a reply in Greg's name, so we know how the issue was resolved. Hopefully Greg resolved the issue with the controller before he addressed the employee.

shoot, i'm beginning to think i didn't make it up...
 
Well...

Well...

Ok guys, thanks for the PMs. I didn't wanna post until the issue was resolved.

So, Friday night, we tripped the breaker, and unable to do anything.

Well, as the J-Man pulled the contactor out, he told me it was 208 3 phase...

Well, it's really 480V 3 phase... don't I feel stupid... Same concept anyway.

The coil is 480V too!

Saturday morning, the J-man went to the carwash, and talked to the general manager, he was going to bypass the entire thing to get them up and running, when the general manager says... "Oh... no worries, we have a backup!"

The local CEDs (Colorado Springs, Pueblo, and Denver) say, yeah, we got one... So, J-man drives to Denver (1 1/2 hours - 1 way) only to find out they are wrong...

So, no bypassing necessary, the car wash wasn't down, and we did not lose face... much...

But, the situation is not resolved.

I do know that the coil is bad. The overload is still good. The contactor still contacts. It just doesn't stay in... A clear mind shouts "coil"...

So, CED says... NEXT Friday and $260... because the contactor comes with it...

I call, they say: "Huh? What part number again? Nope, that's a factory part, sorry. Click" (That's why I don't use Graybar)

So, I went online and typed the numbers in again, and can't find anyone who has a 480V coil... Called a company who is selling one, and they do have one: Coil and contactor: $44.70... I double check the price and overnight it...

So, here we are: Tuesday... the part will arrive today. I made sure we are getting the right thing. I am eager in my anticipation.


So, to back up, I looked at the J-Man's actions: Screw went through wire = sloppy install. The cascading problems (coil fried, tripped breaker) = frustration, and not knowing what he was really doing when he was removing the contactor...

So, Monday morning, he's expecting to get fired. I didn't fire him... he hands his time card to me. There is no time / job for the car wash... he did not charge me for the time... Then, at the trip to Denver, he paid for an overload with his own money... (The overload didn't work because it was the wrong size / part because they don't make this Square D part anymore...)

So, I see that the J-Man is taking ownership for his problem. We are working with CED to get the J-Man his money back (another problem in itself) and I have ordered the correct part...

All this started because of a barter...

Also, a friend of mine owns Edible Arrangements, who has a barter with the car wash owner... (unknown to me), and she sends an Edible Arrangement to him, with my name and an apology...

So, we're back in good graces, and we haven't even fixed the vacuum.

Tomorrow, when the vacuum gets fixed, the van is going in for a wash!

Thanks Guys,
Greg
719-648-9170
Greg@SwartzElectric.biz
 

emahler

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well, at least we don't have to take up a collection for a good defense attorney...

make right by the J-man...he showed a lot of character...not necessarily money...maybe a nice dinner for him and his wife...if you use AMEX, get a gift certificate for a nice restaurant...no money out of pocket to compound the losses, and he understands that it's a two way street...

good luck.
 
well, at least we don't have to take up a collection for a good defense attorney...

make right by the J-man...he showed a lot of character...not necessarily money...maybe a nice dinner for him and his wife...if you use AMEX, get a gift certificate for a nice restaurant...no money out of pocket to compound the losses, and he understands that it's a two way street...

good luck.

Funny you say that... The day the whole problem started, I was passing out company coffee mugs filled with chocolates AND a gift card... (Hey, it was only $25, but, I did it even when the situation was in the crapper!)
 

hillbilly1

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North Georgia mountains
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Owner/electrical contractor
........... he told me it was 208 3 phase...

Well, it's really 480V 3 phase...

............. we haven't even fixed the vacuum.



Thanks Guys,
Greg
719-648-9170
Greg@SwartzElectric.biz

........ you can get 280 volts at the coil if this starter operates at 480 volts,
Taking a wild guess, your probably putting in a remote station for the vacuum in the detail area.

I use the dark side of the force occasionally!:smile:
 
Ok, round 4...

Ok, round 4...

Ok, new contactor / coil combo is in...

Actually needed the new overload too...

So, push the start button, it engages... let go, it disengages.

Keep in mind we are only dealing with the factory start / stop buttons. The other ones are disconnected right now.

contactor is receiving 480V... like it needs.
 

emahler

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since we can obviously not trust the information you give us (;))...and we don't need to bail you out...you are on your own:D
 
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