Stolen tools

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The Iceman

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Florida
why was it your responsilbility to provide tools like drills and saws anyway? your boss owns the company and should provide all that stuff. once you get your new tools i would quit

Is there that much work where you live that you could just up and quit your job and find another one? I don't see why the employer is responsible for all their employees tools. If it was my company I would help him out, but the employer can't be responsible for all the emloyees tools. I do feel bad for you. Before I got laid off I carried alot of tools on my van like you did. I would be sick if they were stolen.
 

Twoskinsoneman

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Location
West Virginia, USA NEC: 2020
Occupation
Facility Senior Electrician
I'm very sorry for you man. Sadly I have never had a boss that reinburst my tools. I remember I was pretty much forced to take a trip to texas for work. Some very expensive tools were stolen out of my luggage by the airline I flew on. Sucky situation. They won't let you take them on the plane and they won't let you lock them in case they have to be inspected.
Fluke meter...Soldering station...arg....

I dream about finding the guy who stole them as much as I dream about Natalie Portman...:D
 

wawireguy

Senior Member
Can you get your company to help you re-outfit? Sounds like you can't.. Guess you have to look at what they pay and what the bennies are. If you're making good money, have decent bennies then maybe supplying those tools isn't so bad. If they pay crappy and have poor benifets then I'd start looking for another company. Get what tools you need to scrape bye and don't store them in your van as the thieves will probably be back.
 

ohm

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Location
Birmingham, AL
Can you get your company to help you re-outfit? Sounds like you can't.. Guess you have to look at what they pay and what the bennies are. If you're making good money, have decent bennies then maybe supplying those tools isn't so bad. If they pay crappy and have poor benifets then I'd start looking for another company. Get what tools you need to scrape bye and don't store them in your van as the thieves will probably be back.

Mak, may I suggest that you not jump ship too soon. My guess is that you boss was not too quick to tool-you-up because he wants to see how you act and what he can put together for you.

Please let us know how this turns out, it sounds like Sociology 101.

Good luck, Maurice
 

hillbilly1

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Location
North Georgia mountains
Occupation
Owner/electrical contractor
Definetly check the pawn shops, as others have posted, we get trucks broken into all of the time because we do so much out of state work. Some of the pawn shop owners get pissed when we go in and start picking up tools with our name on them, but they probally knew they were hot when they got them.
 

daleuger

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Location
earth
you work for someone and supply 3500 dollars worth of tools????

It's easy to run into that kind of money just in hand tools over a few years. Even just the essentials aren't cheap. I for one should never be unsupervised in a place that sells tools, unless it be Harbor Freight or something along those lines. Then again I've got no reason to be in there to begin with. :D
 

daleuger

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Location
earth
I would check flea markets in the area as well. There are always guys there with a lot of loose random tools.....doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where most of those came from.
 
check at local shops

check at local shops

I had an experience, years ago, that is relevant. My shop used to be across the street from a supply house. A guy walked in with a bag of nearly new tools to sell and a hard luck story. I bought the bag for $50 and walked over to the supply house. At the counter was an apprentice, near tears about his tools that were stolen out of his bosses truck. I said "I might have the solution to your problem".

Bearing in mind that thieves want to dispose of the evidence as fast as possible, I would check the following:

Any fabrication shops near the scene of the crime. They don't have to be electrical.

Any electrical supply houses nearby. I'm sure they will let you post signs, too.

Anywhere that buys or sells used tools. They don't want any trouble from the police. Make sure that you have your digital camera to shoot your tools, if you see them, before they can be disposed of.

Ask around. Sometimes people know where to go to buy suspiciously cheap used tools. Here in New York City restaurants that deliver all seem to very expensive bicycles. You know they aren't paying retail.

Lastly, and I'm sure that you thought of this or someone suggested it, ask your boss to chip in the $2000.00 deductible. He doesn't want to have his policy canceled - understandable. But he would be responsible for the deductible, right? He does not have to give you the cash; he can buy your replacement tools through his company.

Good luck with this.
 

AV ELECTRIC

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Is there a system that you can install on your work truck,tool bins job trailers ect to deter criminals like sound light or electric shock. Ive seen electric shock on some car alarm systems I dont no the legality of this system for are application but if the cost is minor and if it could deter some of these people it could save alot. I would say with this economy this can become more of a problem.
 

e57

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I know this topic has been touched many times so I'm not going to go into full detail but will provide a number of things that could help it never happening again. I have most of these, and in the numerous events of attempts to steal my stuff I was only left with some minor damage. And NOTHING missing....

  • Fleet gps tracking in real time. You go find 'em!
  • Alarms with auto locking doors and kill switch after 30 seconds - close door forget to lock it - it will for you.... This saves me so much effort...
  • Disabled locks in cargo areas so that only alarm door locks open doors. I have had people try to mess with locks only to find they are not connected to anything - they give up.
  • Tool box locked, set and bolted in place so that an alarmed door must open to open the box - and therefore set off alarm. If they get in - there is no way to get tools out of the gang box without unloading the van to get to the box, then opening it without opening a door that only opens with the alarm door locks. IMO this layering of security is key....
  • No windows in cargo area - even with screens..... No window - nothing to break. Or forced to go through passanger section - which will lead nowhere but to materials on top of tool box.
  • Security asset tags - the laminated polyester epoxy on type. Need a grinder to remove them.... I keep reminding myself to order more....
  • Parking in either secure area or in video taped area.
  • Well lit at night - there are relitively few shadows out in front of my house at night.
  • Video cameras - I have pictures of a number of idiots who have attemped before, and one who was dumb enough to return to get a 1/2" bender in the mug.
  • Engraved tools with name and contact information - most of mine say something to the effect "Tool is never for sale - if lost or stolen contact - ......" With this I have actually gotten some things back that I leave at jobs....
I used to have some stickers that said - "Doors can not be opened from inside." on the windows that I used to have. I guess this was not clear to whoever broke said window, and then tried the door. I assume he needed numerous stitches for the attempt. Blood everywhere. Since I went to get the windows replaced on a GMC Savanna - I found that the rear windows to replace are $400 ea X2 ($800), but a set (2) doors without glass is only $600.... Now there are now no windows..... Sure you could use a saws-all, then try the inside lock that does nothing, then if you do get the door open to get to the box or removed the rat pack drawer over the top and back, the alarm would have gone off by then - and you'll be staring angry 6'2" ex-Marine guy in the face. (Who might be in his boxers but armed.)
 

e57

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That said - many years ago I had all my stuff ripped off. I showed up to work and told the boss. He handed me a credit card and told me to go get me some more and get back to work.
 

Twoskinsoneman

Senior Member
Location
West Virginia, USA NEC: 2020
Occupation
Facility Senior Electrician
Is there a system that you can install on your work truck,tool bins job trailers ect to deter criminals like sound light or electric shock. Ive seen electric shock on some car alarm systems I dont no the legality of this system for are application but if the cost is minor and if it could deter some of these people it could save alot. I would say with this economy this can become more of a problem.

Yeah shock alarm will go over well.
Depending on how liberal his state is he could get sued by the guy that stole his tools if he get's hurt with them:rolleyes:

A nice loud alarm is a good idea.
 

jeremysterling

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Location
Austin, TX
I am sorry that you lost your tools to a thief. It is sickening.

I have not read this whole thread so I don't know if somebody already mentioned it. Theft of property can be claimed as a loss on your federal income tax if you choose to itemize your deductions.
 
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