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bjp_ne_elec

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i read a book called electricians trade secrets or something like that and they had a story of a guy putting a cat in the celing and tying a string to his collar and opening a can of catfood at the other end of the celing and the cat finds his way

i dont think that would work very well

Sounds like an interesting book - do you have the Title and Author available?
 

TwinCitySparky

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I think some misinterpet this thread as a poll without the tally area. Or very few people read entire threads...


No WAIT! I've got one! Have you ever seen those floppy fiberglass fish poles before?


:grin:
 

Fulthrotl

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greenlee makes a cable caster. i have one and use it sometimes. only problem is you need perfect aim and it might get stuck on things. plus make sure you dont aim it at your helper or you might shoot his eye out. http://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-Cast...d_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1231193872&sr=8-1

we used to make those from a wrist rocket and a cheap zebco reel.....:D

making power drops from the steel at trade shows, you'd shoot it out over
a crossmember, and use a string to pull the cable... the guys who were good
at it could get it thru a triangle opening in the steel 40' away, with a
couple tries.... i wasn't that good.... :-(
 

220/221

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AZ
I have used 1/2" PVC with great success.

If you can angle a 10 foot stick up and thru the opening, just slip them together and tape the couplings.

I've gone up to 80 feet or so. Obviously, the better access you have, the longer you can push it. A slight curve up on the leading end helps.
 

electricalperson

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we used to make those from a wrist rocket and a cheap zebco reel.....:D

making power drops from the steel at trade shows, you'd shoot it out over
a crossmember, and use a string to pull the cable... the guys who were good
at it could get it thru a triangle opening in the steel 40' away, with a
couple tries.... i wasn't that good.... :-(

that reel on the cable caster is a zebco :D. i sometimes have luck like that with it but usually i get about 15 feet or just push a stick of pvc or emt in the celing instead due to all the stuff in the celing. i wish those drop celings were all nice and neat but 99% of the time it looks like spaghetti and a huge mess
 

barbeer

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http://www.techtoolsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1951

This will do the trick just fine. But be sure that you will use it again to get your money's worth....

Now that is awesome!
awesome.jpg


Finally a tool that does what it claims! At a price though.
 

electricalperson

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Sounds like an interesting book - do you have the Title and Author available?

the book i read wasnt the dr watts one. its the same exact thing but it was just a white cover that said electrician's trade secrets. its a nice book and i liked it a lot but a lot of stuff might be obsolete. i dont know about the dr watts version it might be edited but its still a great book with tons of good information
 

cschmid

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dude glow sticks..if this is a sideways and down there are several methods whats at your disposal to use..sling shot and a plumbob will work..then you get the idea..
 
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JohnJ0906

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Baltimore, MD
the book i read wasnt the dr watts one. its the same exact thing but it was just a white cover that said electrician's trade secrets. its a nice book and i liked it a lot but a lot of stuff might be obsolete. i dont know about the dr watts version it might be edited but its still a great book with tons of good information

I think DR watts bought it out.
I have the white cover one myself.
 

quogueelectric

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new york
Fish sticks and I used to use a training crossbow untill I loaned it out to a few morons who almost blinded themselves with it. I used it to get across known asbestos areas of a ceiling.I used it for years and treated it as if it were a 357 mag.Moron would to borrow this and then would climb up a ladder and shoot it into a duct 4 feet away so the bolt would bounce back off the duct and hit him in the face. He would come down the ladder screamming MY EYE!!! MY EYE!!!!!!and holding his hand over his eye with blood running down his face. It only hit him in the face but this person should not procreate. He is stuck on stupid. I could hit a 4 sq box 100'away on a reg basis.
 

e57

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I once crawled to the far side of a crawl-space - up/over/under/through a bunch of ducts to any area apprently seldom seen by humans since it was built. (About 100' back in a really shallow crawl - like 14", and the duct made it hardly possible) I had to do a Harry Houdini to get there - at one point I needed to exhale to get through. Once I got there - there was an arrow with a string tied to it stuck in the framing right under where I was going to drill up to install an outlet. The arrow had about ten feet of string tied to it, and was frayed at the end right about where some strapping for the duct was. My immediate thought was 'someone has tried this before' - there was no other wiring or cabling below where I was. No holes - no wire of any kind - maybe they gave up. Looked like it was there for 20 years from the dust...

During this time - the guy a was working for at the time was above going to cut into the rock for the outlet. He yelled down at me to come back - forget about it. I got back out - which took some doing, and found that when he cut into the wall there was a patch - where someone else had cut into the wall and it came out in one nice piece, and 1/4 behind that was solid stone from the exterior faux foundation. Real rock on the outside, made to look like a rock foundation. They set it inside the wall on the sill plate from the outside. Didn't see that coming... Sure you could get an outlet there with a diamond grinder and a chipping gun after several hours.

Anyway - point is make sure that you even can do what you want to do before you fish it.

And if you do - a little trick:
Use some fish sticks and put a bent coat anger on the end to make a little sled for the end - hepls to get by some things - and try the 'shake it' method. And for fishing 'down' a plumb bob.
 

Fulthrotl

~Autocorrect is My Worst Enema.~
Fish sticks and I used to use a training crossbow untill I loaned it out to a few morons who almost blinded themselves with it. I used it to get across known asbestos areas of a ceiling.I used it for years and treated it as if it were a 357 mag.Moron would to borrow this and then would climb up a ladder and shoot it into a duct 4 feet away so the bolt would bounce back off the duct and hit him in the face. He would come down the ladder screamming MY EYE!!! MY EYE!!!!!!and holding his hand over his eye with blood running down his face. It only hit him in the face but this person should not procreate. He is stuck on stupid. I could hit a 4 sq box 100'away on a reg basis.

crossbow? "perk":D:D:D

we don't need no steenking paintball gun.... we gotta crossbow....:D

just for curiosities sake... which was was he pointing it when he shot it..?
toward his face, or away from his face?
 

Fulthrotl

~Autocorrect is My Worst Enema.~
Now that is awesome!
awesome.jpg


Finally a tool that does what it claims! At a price though.

you really gotta be careful posting stuff like this... now i've got a strong
case of desire for one of these..... a bit of research found the companies
web site, and the fellow who developed it and markets it... he's a sparky
in Minnesota, and was just going out to do a service change when we
chatted....

i really don't need one... i don't needone.... idon'tneedone.... keep telling
myself that..... idontneedone......
 

quogueelectric

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new york
crossbow? "perk":D:D:D

we don't need no steenking paintball gun.... we gotta crossbow....:D

just for curiosities sake... which was was he pointing it when he shot it..?
toward his face, or away from his face?
He was trying to aim over the duct but he shot low and the BOLT (term for crossbow little arrow) hit the duct and bounced straight back into his face. When I used to use it on a regular basis I could shoot 50' across a V in the bar joist into the sheetrock on the opposite side of an office. I would often have the helper go to the next acess hole shine a flashlight until I could get a bead then have him skedattle when I said fire in the hole. Pull my mc cable across with little to no disruption to the office people. Keep in mind that this was I think a barret training crossbow not the real mcoy. I got too much crap from coworkers so I eventually gave up on it. I would not hesitate to purchase another one though if I had a known or questionable asbestos area to limit my exposure. People are not intimidated by fishsticks or 1/2"pvc.
 

electricalperson

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massachusetts
you really gotta be careful posting stuff like this... now i've got a strong
case of desire for one of these..... a bit of research found the companies
web site, and the fellow who developed it and markets it... he's a sparky
in Minnesota, and was just going out to do a service change when we
chatted....

i really don't need one... i don't needone.... idon'tneedone.... keep telling
myself that..... idontneedone......

buy one for me and ill tlel you if you need it or not :)
 
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