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Theres a strip mall where 1 service drop is tied to 7 weatherheads and then each weatherhead feeds a meter base behind 1 of the 7 stores in the strip mall. If you look at the back of the mall it is about 80 yards wide with the meter bases spread all apart. Doesnt the code say that these service meters should be grouped?
Second question is when the roofers re-tarred the roof recentlly they allowed the service raceways that had been laying on the top of the roof to slide over the side of the building a couple of feet. The raceways are now covered with tar and it doesnt look like the raceways were ever strapped. Anyone have any ideas how to secure these service raceways in place? Is going through the roof with some bolts and anchoring a peice of strut about the only option? Thanks.
 
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I think you have seven service drops. If it were just one not only must the disconnects be grouped but there could only be six on one service.

Article 100 Service drop.: The overhead service conductors from the last pole or other arial support to and including the splices, if any, connecting to the service entrance conductors at the building or other structure.

The service drop is the connection to the weather head.
 
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Physis:
I think you have seven service drops
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Nope he has one service drop feeding several service entrance cables.

I'm not sure if this is allowed for a single drop, but I know if there is a fire wall between each unit then each can be treated as a separate building allowing a separate service for each unit.
And the same goes for the grouping of disconnects.

Keep in mind that the reason for this is when a multiple unit building has the units sold a real properties then you can not run service wires on the property of someone else's unit with out an utility easement right of way. without this if this person decides to remodel and these service conductors are on his property then he could cut them out and the affected unit owner would not be able to say a word. And someone will be getting sued.
 
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You're right, it is one drop. I'm to tired to look this up right now. Ok 230.40 and 230.40 exception 2.

This can't be leagal.
 
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How are these all connected together? What do the drip loops look like?

I'm getting kind of a funny image of a bunch of pipes with weather heads and wires just kind of laying loose over the edge of a building with some black goopy stuff and gravel and cigarette butts stuck to them.

Could you be more specific about it?
 
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Originally posted by physis:


I'm getting kind of a funny image of a bunch of pipes with weather heads and wires just kind of laying loose over the edge of a building with some black goopy stuff and gravel and cigarette butts stuck to them.

Could you be more specific about it?
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Thats exactly what it looks like. There isnt 1 strap anywhere on the runs of emt on the roof. The 7 weatherheads are hanging about 1' over the roof where they then 90 and head off to their respective meter bases.
 
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hotlegs,
Is going through the roof with some bolts and anchoring a peice of strut about the only option?
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That is not an option...you will be paying for water damage for years and years if you do that. Often times a length of pressure treated wood is placed on the roof and the conduits fastened to the wood. Most of the time the wood is just left floating on the roof, but some times the wood is set into the hot tar when they are coating the roof.
Don
 
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Can I ask you if there's something you need to do here because I'm getting the impression if you touch something you might have to bring this whole installation up to code and it sounds like it's quite a distance from that. Or are you just going to, like, tidy up the mess on the roof?
 
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I agree with Don about not penetrating the roof to support/secure these conduits. The most common method would be to secure the conduits to PT blocks lying on the roof but there are some newer products you might want to look into.

B-Line C-Port is one product you might want to consider.
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Click Here for more info.

You should also consider having the POCO disconnect the drop before moving these conduits around.
 
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