Sub-panel in detached garage

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I'm installing a sub-panel in my detached garage and my question is, does it require a main breaker distribution panel or can I install a main lug dist. panel?
It will be feed from a double pole 30 amp breaker from sevice panel located inside home.
I only want a couple of outlets until I upgrade existing electrical service panel.
 
Re: Sub-panel in detached garage

You can install a MLO panel, but you are limited to six total circuits if you don't have a main in the subpanel.

[ January 07, 2006, 02:34 PM: Message edited by: jeff43222 ]
 
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Originally posted by bigtread:
I think I have found it Art. 230.71 should be it.
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Bigtread Article 230 only applies to services, what you have is not a service, it is a feeder.

The article you need to look at is 225.

Specifically

225.31

225.32

225.33

225.34

225.35

225.36

225.37

225.38

225.39

225.40
 
Re: Sub-panel in detached garage

Can someone tell me what a "sub panel" is?

Isnt that a lunch box used to keep your subway sandwich
 
Re: Sub-panel in detached garage

Read your panelboard labeling carefully. It will indicate if the panel is indeed listed as suitable for use as service equipment and will instuct you on the disconnect(s) needed.
 
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I apologize for calling it a sub panel and thru all your informative input I realize that the proper terminology is panelboard.
Thanks for giving me the heads up. I will try diligently to ensure I use the correct terminology in future post as I see it creates confusion amongst some of the knowledgeable members.
 
Re: Sub-panel in detached garage

There is nothing wrong with calling a panel downstream from another panel a "sub-panel". Everyone here knows what you are talking about.
 
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Originally posted by bigtread:
I apologize for calling it a sub panel and thru all your informative input I realize that the proper terminology is panelboard.
Thanks for giving me the heads up. I will try diligently to ensure I use the correct terminology in future post as I see it creates confusion amongst some of the knowledgeable members.
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I'd have to agree with Don. I don't think that it creates any confusion here. All of us are familiar with the term sub-panel. Whether it's defined somewhere or not, it has a very practical use in these discussions.


Trevor
 
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I've found that main breaker panels tend to be cheaper at our supply house because of availability so I usually just use a main. Make sure you don't install the main bonding jumper.

[ January 08, 2006, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: Steve Rupp ]
 
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What kind of coolaid are you all on tonight?

My good buddy Bennie would tell you you don't need a main on this Sub Panel :p
 
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Bennie would be wrong if this panel is in a separate building, and requires more than six "throws of the hand" to deenergize the panel's entire load, just as in the main service.
 
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Originally posted by speedypetey: Who was it that used to have a real "problem" with the term sub-panel? Wasn't it Bennie something? Didn't he pass away?
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Bennie Palmer. In his time he was the most prolific posted the forum had known. He passed away from lung cancer in 2004.
 
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I only got to meet Glen once at my first IAEI meeting, He talked me into joining, I still have the last PM's he wrote to me about that meeting.

Bennie was an inspiration for me to think out of the box. Which led me to realized that just because it's in the code doesn't mean it's correct, and why we need to keep the proposals going when we do find the errors.

Yes we do have to follow what is written in the code or as Glen has stated "we would have code chaos".
But we also need to be able to right whats wrong in the code.

As I have stated before for a law or a code to be adopted as law can become law, It must have factual scientific backing not just someones theory or opinion.
 
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