supervision of apprentices

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peter d said:
they don't want companies and large jobs to be loaded up with apprentices.
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That's my point. on the job you are allowed 1 Apprentice per License. If the company was large enough they could have 10 apprentices on a job with 10 Licenses, as long as the company has an additional 15 licensed electricians employed.
 
kpepin
You have the laws correct about hiring apprentice and the job site ratio in CT. Why there is a 3 to 1 hireing ratio is a not really fare for the apprentices. And get this its 4 to 1 for HVAC.
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Davis9 said:
What is your take on MA requirements for this. I know the 1 to 1 rule but was curious as to this other stuff, earshot and within sight. That's <50' right?:grin: :smile:

Tom
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Mass general law 141:8 the apprentice works under the direct supervision of the electrician.........and that no such journeyman electrician shall have more than one learner or apprentice working with him and under his supervision as aforesaid (what ever that means), but not more than one such learner or apprentice shall be so employed for each journeyman electrician.
 
lowryder88h said:
Mass general law 141:8 the apprentice works under the direct supervision of the electrician.........and that no such journeyman electrician shall have more than one learner or apprentice working with him and under his supervision as aforesaid (what ever that means), but not more than one such learner or apprentice shall be so employed for each journeyman electrician.
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I read that part already before I got my Master's. Just wondering if an official interpretation ever came out. Like the CT rules. What is Direct Supervision?

Direct Supervision: The supervisor gives specific instructions on all assignments. Work is reviewed for completeness and accuracy, or the employee performs tasks which provide inherent checks built into the nature of the work.
Here is a quick definition I found.

Just wondering.

Tom
 
Move to FL and problem is solved.Hire as many off the street guys you want.So they never touched a wire in there life and cant spell lektikan.All state requires is 1 master insured.Hire 1,000 green kids to wire houses and a few guys (no license)to guide them.They can be green as 30 day bread and can work alone.Doesnt that make you feel real safe in that $300,000 home you just bought.Yes mam our jobs are inspected by the county and done under a licensed electric company.
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
Move to FL and problem is solved.Hire as many off the street guys you want.So they never touched a wire in there life and cant spell lektikan.All state requires is 1 master insured.Hire 1,000 green kids to wire houses and a few guys (no license)to guide them.They can be green as 30 day bread and can work alone.Doesnt that make you feel real safe in that $300,000 home you just bought.Yes mam our jobs are inspected by the county and done under a licensed electric company.
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That will solve it for sure. I hear the weather is nice in December as well.:grin:

Tom;)
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
Move to FL and problem is solved.Hire as many off the street guys you want.So they never touched a wire in there life and cant spell lektikan.All state requires is 1 master insured.Hire 1,000 green kids to wire houses and a few guys (no license)to guide them.They can be green as 30 day bread and can work alone.Doesnt that make you feel real safe in that $300,000 home you just bought.Yes mam our jobs are inspected by the county and done under a licensed electric company.
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GA too. I wired hundreds of new homes unsupervised.;)
 
Renod120105 said:
I am an apprentice electrician in oregon, so if there is anyone from oregon familiar with Oregon laws regarding electrical work , hopefully you can help me!

One question I have never got a satisfactory answer to is the supervision of apprentices. What exactly are the rules about supervision, how long they can be left alone, working alone and etc.? If anyone, especially oregon inspectors, can help, I would appreciate it.

Renod120105
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Per ORS 918-282-0270(1)(c)

Assists a journeyman, general supervising electrician, limited renewable energy technician or limited residential electrician on the same job site and the same shift in performing electrical work authorized in the trade, or branch of the trade, in which the licensee is indentured; and

(d) Is not authorized to perform electrical work under a person holding a letter of authority card issued to State of Oregon employees.
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
Hire 1,000 green kids to wire houses and a few guys (no license)to guide them.
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License?? You need a license? :grin: The company I first worked for worked under the owners license and I don't know that I ever saw him on a job. We always had qualified lead-men on the job, but no enforced regulations in this area.
 
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