Swimming pool bonding.

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FionaZuppa said:
it's not what i would want it to do.....

it's imperative to make sure egc from/to pool stuff is 100%. it's one reason why i advocate that the grid be tied to egc at pump and another location (2 or more separate ties, etc), thus if the bond grid gets energized it will be brought back down to egc value, earth/neutral, and hopefully a ocpd/gfi trips. when you lose the egc the bond grid is ok as long as you dont bridge the ckt near the edge of the grid, etc.
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I’m with you on this - bond the heck out of it.
Faults don’t always cooperate with physics. For a few extra bucks you get a lot more ‘insurance’.


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Dale001289 said:
I’m with you on this - bond the heck out of it.
Faults don’t always cooperate with physics. For a few extra bucks you get a lot more ‘insurance’.


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And you are welcome to do so, nothing prohibits exceeding what NEC wants for minimum requirement here.
 
FionaZuppa said:
maybe it was meant that faults dont always manifest in ways we expect them to. nothing escapes physics ;)
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Exactly, pure sarcasm on my part -
There are lots of grounding experts out there, but faults can do the unexpected and faults can kill


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So how am I sure that the electrician I hire for an above ground pool truly knows what he is taking about? I mean I am in finance and I thought I understood this and the more I pick peoples brains that “are in the industry” the more I realize nobody has a clue about bonding a pool. And Me holt thanks for the videos! But rightfully so you have scared the crap out of me to the point I don’t want an above ground pool due to lack of finding an electrician that is able to give me an immediate explanation to prove their knowledge and be able to price it out. But seriously how do I find someone that is certified specifically for this and not someone that just been doing pool electrical work for years... which is actually what I would be afraid of with old bad habits or old theory...


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I would asked the prospective electrician if his estimate included bonding the pool, then ask him/her to explain the bonding. Also, make sure the job is permitted. That should help weed out some who would fear the job if it is being permitted. And if it doesn't scare them off at least the inspection should reveal anything not done correctly.
 
perezyorkpa said:
So how am I sure that the electrician I hire for an above ground pool truly knows what he is taking about? I mean I am in finance and I thought I understood this and the more I pick peoples brains that “are in the industry” the more I realize nobody has a clue about bonding a pool. And Me holt thanks for the videos! But rightfully so you have scared the crap out of me to the point I don’t want an above ground pool due to lack of finding an electrician that is able to give me an immediate explanation to prove their knowledge and be able to price it out. But seriously how do I find someone that is certified specifically for this and not someone that just been doing pool electrical work for years... which is actually what I would be afraid of with old bad habits or old theory...


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One can ask similar questions about any trade/profession. As far as your pool - if it is permitted and inspected at least there is a second person going to look at it, but at same time there are inspectors out there that don't always know their stuff either.
 
perezyorkpa said:
So how am I sure that the electrician I hire for an above ground pool truly knows what he is taking about? I mean I am in finance and I thought I understood this and the more I pick peoples brains that “are in the industry” the more I realize nobody has a clue about bonding a pool. And Me holt thanks for the videos! But rightfully so you have scared the crap out of me to the point I don’t want an above ground pool due to lack of finding an electrician that is able to give me an immediate explanation to prove their knowledge and be able to price it out. But seriously how do I find someone that is certified specifically for this and not someone that just been doing pool electrical work for years... which is actually what I would be afraid of with old bad habits or old theory...


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I do not live near your area but you are required a permit and inspections for your pool
http://www.yorkcity.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Swimming-Pools.pdf
 
kwired said:
Like I mentioned inspection and permit gets more eyes on the installation, but inspectors are not always completely knowledgeable about everything either, and can still be safety issues.
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That is true , and i too am an inspector that is not completely knowledgeable,

but in States like PA. electricians are not required to carry a licence which means the electrician wiring your pool is not certified under any standard,

and in turn makes it essential that someone certified looks at the electrical for your pool.
 
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