tamper resistance rec.

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raider1 said:
That depends on how you interpret "In all areas specified in 210.52".
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I interpret that as meaning, kitchen, family room, dining room, living room, parlor, library, den, sunroom, bedroom, recreation room, and any room that is similar to any of these, as well as kitchen, pantry, breakfast room, dining room, and any area that is similar to any of these, as well as kitchens, pantries, breakfast rooms, and any area that is similar to any of these, as well as bathrooms, outdoors, laundry areas, basements, garages, and hallways.

(There may be some duplication there. :D)
 
Charlie, thats how I read it too, but I have heard some very interesting arguments about what receptacles may not be covered by 210.52.

Chris
 
bmwnut said:
how about a deicated outlet for say a refrigerator? or washer? or microwave? and garage door opener or applaince garage?
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Here is the comments from CMP 18 in regard to this section:

Commentary: NEMA proposal 18-40 would require the use of tamper resistant receptacles throughout dwellings. The overwhelming consensus was to accept this proposal, but a considerable amount of time was spent debating whether the requirement for tamper resistant receptacles should be limited to only those that are easily accessible to children. For instance, it was questioned whether the receptacles behind refrigerators, or on walls behind counter tops, should need to comply. Panel members also questioned the ease with which attachment plugs could be inserted into tamper resistant receptacles, resulting in the writing of the following panel statement:

?The panel is concerned about the possible increased insertion force required for our aging population. The panel requests data concerning the amount of force necessary to insert a plug into the shutter and the amount of force necessary to fully insert a plug into a tamper-resistant receptacle?.

The panel finally agreed to accept the proposal without any location restrictions to see what comments were generated during the public review phase. The IAEI representative voted against the proposal. The IEC representative abstained from the voting.
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Chris
 
Heaven forbid an NEC codemaking panel come up with something in plain English. :rolleyes:

For crying out loud rather than leaving it for us to guess what you mean how about you just say what you mean.


I seriously think that ego plays a role in some of the things they come up with. A bunch of lawyer wannabes.


I'll give it a shot.

"All 120v receptacles installed in a dwelling unit shall be tamper resistant."

Wow that was tough. :rolleyes:
 
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electricmanscott said:
Heaven forbid an NEC codemaking panel come up with something in plain English. :rolleyes:

For crying out loud rather than leaving it for us to guess what you mean how about you just say what you mean.


I seriously think that ego plays a role in some of the things they come up with. A bunch of lawyer wannabes.


I'll give it a shot.

"All 120v receptacles installed in a dwelling unit shall be tamper resistant."

Wow that was tough. :rolleyes:
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But if they said it all that simply ,.. what would debate????:smile:

and I think it should read " in or associated with a dwelling unit....:smile:
 
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this is what i don't understand 406.11 TAMPER RESISTANT RECPITALS in all areas speicified in 210.52. that states required "in addition to-- 1 part of a luminaire 2controled by a wall switch 3in a cupboard or cabinet 4 above 5.5 ft so are these additional 1 2 3 4 required to be tamper resistant?because if i read it right 210.52 does not govern these four outlets??
 
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