Temporary rough-in panel covers???

[LarryFine]

You know it was a fun jab but I guarantee you there are guys looking at that picture thinking exactly what I said for real.

Awwww, you ruined it. I wanted to see the guesses first.

 

[e57]

Seriously?

590.2(A) (2008) but the same requirement has been in place for many code cycles.

240.24(A).

Yeah - seriously...

590.4(B)+(C) IMO are a modification of what is stated in 590.2(A).... Saying only 240.4, 240.5, 240.100, and in addition to those 240.101 for feeders. While both 590.4(B)+(C) mention overcurrent protection - niether address accesibilty.

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

240.24 Requires the accessibility of OCPDs. Article 590 does not relieve one of this requirement.
See 590.2(A).

 

[480sparky]

Is that setup Listed? If not how do you sleep at night. You are an outlaw!!!!

Of course it's listed. On my list of stuff to take to a resi rough-in.

 

[480sparky]

...........Anyway - do you think the the OCP even needs to be 'readily accessible' for temp installs?

You think I'm going to install a cover that would require removing it in order to reset a tripped breaker on a job site?

Have you ever seen how may things the other trades can plug it? I have 4 20a circuits in this thing, plus a 4-wire 50a recep for the handful of trades that have their own 'sub' panels.

You get a large crew of trades with compressors, saws, halogen lights, etc. going, and you're gonna trip a breaker. I don't want them bozos pulling a cover off just to reset a breaker. That's why I left them accessible.

 

[hurk27]

I actually like it, add a hinged plastic in-use cover, security screws, and then I think 480 should get it patented, UL listed, then offer it to panel manufactures as a combo paint, mud cover/temporary power tap cover.
Or manufacture and sell it on his own.

He'd be rich

 

[e57]

You think I'm going to install a cover that would require removing it in order to reset a tripped breaker on a job site?

Have you ever seen how may things the other trades can plug it? I have 4 20a circuits in this thing, plus a 4-wire 50a recep for the handful of trades that have their own 'sub' panels.

You get a large crew of trades with compressors, saws, halogen lights, etc. going, and you're gonna trip a breaker. I don't want them bozos pulling a cover off just to reset a breaker. That's why I left them accessible.

The only thing I ever really leave on in one closed up is a few lights - tops. But I was wondering about the 'readily accessible' thing... (And just shut the feeder off at the end of the day) Site power (for tools) I leave on the temp boxes as long as possible....

I actually like it, add a hinged plastic in-use cover, security screws, and then I think 480 should get it patented, UL listed, then offer it to panel manufactures as a combo paint, mud cover/temporary power tap cover.
Or manufacture and sell it on his own.

He'd be rich

Well - that is what I was thinking too... As mentioned I too was thinking of adding a hinge to my overly simple set-up and maybe a latch as well... The outlet idea is also very neat... Patents would require it to be unique in some way, like universal fitting, etc. But I'm not so sure it actually needs to be listed... Although that is a great idea if one were to market something like it.

 

[iwire]

Yeah - seriously...

590.4(B)+(C) IMO are a modification of what is stated in 590.2(A).... Saying only 240.4, 240.5, 240.100, and in addition to those 240.101 for feeders. While both 590.4(B)+(C) mention overcurrent protection - neither address accessibility.

Correct, nothing in 590 addresses accessibility so that means 240.24(A) is still a requirement.