That's too much....$$$$$$$$$$

[iwire]

This isn't the first time I've seen it, can we please recognize that the word is waste and not waist?

If anybody knows waists, it might be me. It just annoys me that such a smart group of people make this mistake so often. Twice in one day.

Stop waisting your time with the small stuff.

 

[220/221]

Fine by me, except they are arguing the labor price

It's called a red flag. After a while you will learn to recognize them instantly.

Do NOT take this job, even at $650

 

[quogueelectric]

It's called a red flag. After a while you will learn to recognize them instantly.

Do NOT take this job, even at $650

Throw them to the wolves and drop this guy like a bad habbit.

 

[Loffgren]

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Seems on the low side, and the materials deal is a pain...just my 2 cents....

 

[Chasman]

Colorado State statutes do not allow an electrician to work under a HO permit. The $ 650 for 10 Hrs sounds reasonable. But the supplied materials is likely not good, I avoid this scenerio.

 

[DownRiverGUy]

So I do design not install but i can see it going like this...

Drive to Site
Get to the site and start doing the demo.

See what they have bought at the big box and see they have missing/wrong parts

Tell them what you need and pray they get it right OR have to drive out with them... *wasted time*

Rinse and repeat a few times i'm sure

Sounds like a PITA for that price IMO.

If they want to do their own parts why not just charge them by the hour for the time you wait around for the right parts?

 

[growler]

They said the last couple upgrades did not cost them near as much, with their "previous electricians" just swapping the panel.

"previous electricians", When they say electicians are they refering to contractors or employees? The labor rate can be very different and it not just about who furnishes the materials.

From reading your earlier post it appears that anyone can register as an electrical contractor in that area. Which means that even these guys from the property management company could register to be electrical contractors. If they do so anyone that works for them that is not under a written contract and also a registered contractor ( sub ) could easily be considered an employee of their business. To get a permit they probably did something of this nature.

These previous electricians may have been working as nothing more than labor or temporary employees. So it would be important to find out if they wish to hire a contractor or a day laborer. Do they wish to provide insurance for temp. labor and cover any liability such as the house burning or not.

$650 may be expensive for an employee and darn cheap for a contractor.

 

[hillbilly1]

..... Problem is, they had it tore up and somewhat cobbled back together when the local AHJ happened to be driving around and saw the mess outside....oops. From what i was told, he let himself in and let it fly (no permits).

If they got red tagged, a lot of AHJ's like to punish them for working without a permit, so they will nit pic the inspection, so throw common sense out the window, everything will need to be perfect. I'd walk away from this one.

 

[rich9112]

1 hour jobs?

1 hour jobs?

The actual costs which should be covered in any job should include the time from the START of the job (when you leave the shop) to the time you are ready to START the next job (after you have returned to the shop and reorganized & reloaded the truck). This way you have your billable time match your actual time.

If you figure time only on when you leave the shop until you are done at the jobsite you are omitting actual costs related to the job including travel time.

You have to account for the time setting up for the job since it's part of the work.

Otherwise, you can only fit (4) "1 hour jobs" in an 8 hour day.

 

[satcom]

The actual costs which should be covered in any job should include the time from the START of the job (when you leave the shop) to the time you are ready to START the next job (after you have returned to the shop and reorganized & reloaded the truck). This way you have your billable time match your actual time.

If you figure time only on when you leave the shop until you are done at the jobsite you are omitting actual costs related to the job including travel time.

You have to account for the time setting up for the job since it's part of the work.

Otherwise, you can only fit (4) "1 hour jobs" in an 8 hour day.

You will find that you can only do 4 one hour service calls in a day, that is why a service rate is more then a standard hourly rate, it has to include all the additional costs.

 

[bradleyelectric]

Labor only is not a bad price. What ya gonna do. Work is work. depending on how long it takes, thats about 50 70 an hour.

I hear in the city the per hour is getting lowered to 50-60

Sounds like a great reason to give a per job price instead of a per hour price doesn't it? Wouldn't it be just wild if you could get $200/hr instead of $50-$60. It would be like, you could get stuff done around your own house and make the same money or more.