The Flooring Guys

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I guess I am just the odd guy out here. On my jobs, I am in control of the electrical. I have cut more than a few extension cords with illegal ends on them, and if some one hooks something up to my panels that is illegal, I just take it off. If anyone has a problem with that, I just shut the power off until they get the picture.

I have worked jobs in states where the local inspectors hold YOU responsible for ALL electrical safety on the job regardless of the offending trade. I won't lose my license for anyone. You just have got to stand your ground, and get the appropriate authorities to back you up. When I am right, I have NO problem being unpopular on the jobsite. I am not getting paid to be popular. If electricians don't stand up for what is right in their trade, then who will?
 
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if the floor guy or any one other than the electrician/electrical company that installed the T pole is removing the cover panel then you have a major problem.....anyone getting hurt or their family will probably go for legal actions against guess who! the way the floor guy and or his families lawyers will look at it,,,,you didnt provide the proper outlet for his machine? no one there to properly install for them! he was under stress to get the job done or else! so the end result is hurt or dead! somehow it needs a lock......
 
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To get back on track, this is not necessarily new construction nor a jobsite with temporary power and an EC in charge. There the answer is obvious.

These are existing homes where the homeowner or remodeling contractor is having the floors newly installed or refinished.

Don't know what the answer is. Maybe the Code should require a 30amp/220 volt GFCI protected receptacle next to every service?

-Hal
 
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so your talking about after the fact on remodel and or home owner calling n mr floor man.... sounds to me like mr home owner and mr floor man has the worry in their pockets...mr electrician is in the clear...even if the inspector is involved, by the time the floor guy comes the inspector isnt around! most of the floor guys in my area will open up the box, switch off a 2 pole in service and connect equipment to that breaker,,,at least they r CB protected! some even have their own breaker and will just snap in place if room allows.....again, all this is between mr home owner and mr floor man.......if we fixed all maybe problems, one could not pull in his drive way for all the updates LOL....
 
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They could take a safe way out and plug into the dryer outlet.Only 2 possible plugs needed 3 wire and 4 wire and usually easy to get too.They are opening themself to many problems if they open customers panel ,not to mention safety of themself.Now if no 240 available at dryer or range then maybe they have little choice.I am thinking they are too cheap to buy all the adapters they might need.There is another way to get 240 from 120 volt outlets but that is dangerous too.but keeps them from opening panel.
 
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I've seen this done at a high school gym on a 3P 400A Panel with about 200' of SO cord with only yellow caution tape over the door to the room with the panel.

Mark
 
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