Tile Ring Vs. Mud Ring
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goldstar
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- New Jersey
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Send me a PM and I'll tell you if you're correct. As luck would have it you have several towns and EI's to choose from. There seems to be several EI's lately that have become rather aggressive with their citation of mis-interpreted codes.I bet I could guess his name.
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No just his idea that a tile cover has to be used with tile. I mean really at the end of the day what difference does it make if the cover behind the drywall is square or rounded. :rant:
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- Placerville, CA, USA
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Because the drywall guy has to cut a different shaped hole? Which the inspector should not be concerned about, of course.
Remember that the non combustible wall cover has to be a close enough fit to satisfy NEC.
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electrofelon
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Ok well that kills that theory. I just had never seen the biggest sizes in the drawn style.
kwired
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I was going to mention that - plus NEC also wants only 1/8 gap around flush box in combustible wall covering, those rounded mud rings leave a wider gap in drywall, but at same time that gap is still closed at the "base" of the mud ring so there still isn't an opening into the wall cavity at least in the case of 5/8 ring with 5/8 drywall or similar situations.Remember that the non combustible wall cover has to be a close enough fit to satisfy NEC.
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Knuckle Dragger
Master Electrician Electrical Contractor 01752
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- Marlborough, Massachusetts USA
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- Electrical Contractor
Did an inspector cite you on this?? or did someone just bring this up in conversation.Can someone clarify that according to their listing these are actually the same thing? I was told today that a "tile ring" and a "mud ring" do not share the same UL listing and cannot be used in the same application, i.e.- behind a drywall surface. To me this is ludicrous because the name is just that, a name, and does not limit it's application, anyone have a listing document to back this up?
Tile ring:
Mud ring:
IMHO there is no real difference in the two, as far as application is concerned. Do you know if one opening wider than the other?? It might be good to know if using larger devices like GFCI's ect.
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