Tiny K.O. In Square D Enclosures?

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ItsHot said:
I learn something everytime I am here!!:grin:
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I kid you not... I went to an elderly lady's house one time for a service call and noticed she had those little plastic push-in covers in all the unused receptacles. I assumed they were there for the protection of her grandchildren. She informed me she did that to keep the electricity from leaking out and getting all over her carpet and shocking her when she touched something metal.....
 
I use the little KO's for GEC's, and it's never been brought up, so it must be legal. :wink:
 
The only hazard that I see by not having the conductor secured to the box is that it could possibly be pulled loose from the terminal.
 
SEO said:
The only hazard that I see by not having the conductor secured to the box is that it could possibly be pulled loose from the terminal.
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Hey brother, if someone manages to do that, you don't want to be anywhere around. They probably look like The Incredible Hulk.
 
jwelectric said:
Look at 250.64(E) of the '05 and '08 and see if you don' t see the words boxes and enclosures
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I see it.

So I have to assume you bond the GEC to both ends of the panel cabinet in your own installs and fail those that don't. :D
 
mdshunk said:
Hey brother, if someone manages to do that, you don't want to be anywhere around. They probably look like The Incredible Hulk.
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I'm pretty sure that Larry Fine could do it. After all, we know all about his skills with a 36 volt drill and 1" auger bit. ;)
 
I used to use that hole for the GEC as well but I found that alot of inspectors with too much time on their hands didn't like it. Now I just use a regular KO with a connector.

I know this means little but I always thought it was for the GEC.

I noticed that pic of the Kenny Clamp... have you guys been failing because of those stupid things also?
 
The quoted rule starts out "E) Enclosures for Grounding Electrode Conductors. Ferrous metal enclosures for grounding electrode conductors shall be electrically continuous from the point of attachment to cabinets or equipment to the grounding electrode and shall be securely fastened to the ground clamp or fitting." Sounds like this rule applys to the enclosure for the GEC, not the panel enclosure that the GEC is exiting. Thus, if running an exposed GEC, this rule has nothing to do the install. If you install a ferrous enclosure for the GEC, you aren't running out the little KO anyway.
 
G0049 said:
The quoted rule starts out "E) Enclosures for Grounding Electrode Conductors. Ferrous metal enclosures for grounding electrode conductors shall be electrically continuous from the point of attachment to cabinets or equipment to the grounding electrode and shall be securely fastened to the ground clamp or fitting." Sounds like this rule applys to the enclosure for the GEC, not the panel enclosure that the GEC is exiting. Thus, if running an exposed GEC, this rule has nothing to do the install. If you install a ferrous enclosure for the GEC, you aren't running out the little KO anyway.
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Enclosure. The case or housing of apparatus, or the fence or walls surrounding an installation to prevent personnel from accidentally contacting energized parts or to protect the equipment from physical damage.
FPN: See Table 110.20 for examples of enclosure types.

Don't see anything about PVC, EMT, IMC, RMC, or any other raceway in table 110.20.

What type of Enclosures do you see in Table 110.20?
 
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