Tricks keep insulation off non ic cans

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Had to install lv 4in remodel can in wood T n G ceiling insulators come friday I have heard about chicken wire and plywood box but what is the fast way to protect these cans before they blown this junk.
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Aledrell said:
Had to install lv 4in remodel can in wood T n G ceiling insulators come friday I have heard about chicken wire and plywood box but what is the fast way to protect these cans before they blown this junk.
:confused:
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I was faced with the same thing. I bought a sheet of 'wire mesh' with 1/2" grid, cut it into + shapes, made up of multiple 1' squares.

In other words, I cut a 3' x 3' piece, then cut out 1' x 1' squares at each corner, leaving a + shape. Then I bent the four arms so the corners met, creating a 1' cube with one open side.

Then I bent a few of the wire tips around the wires they met, to hold the box's shape. In my case, I mounted the cage with a couple of staples into the side of the joists, since it was new construction.
 
If a can is in an insulated ceiling it's likely that the building/energy code would require it to be of the IC type. Non-IC can should only be used in places where there is no insulation installed.
 
Aledrell said:
Had to install lv 4in remodel can in wood T n G ceiling insulators come friday I have heard about chicken wire and plywood box but what is the fast way to protect these cans before they blown this junk.
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Yeah,
I was thinking that you might have used the wrong cans.
How many are involved? Can you change them?
 
A small piece of 12" sono-tube like the stuff used for forming concrete pole bases with chicken wire covering the top opening has worked well for me in the past.
 
they don't make the 4" recessed remodel IC type.

We use the new work type and install them from the attic side, the first floor in houses with 2 floors has no insulation so the 1st floor isn't an issue. If you have to use old works due to inaccessability - go to the 5" recessed IC cans.
 
Take a can of that spray foam and make a wall from t&g to sub floor above the appropriate distance away from the fixture ,.. rip away any over fill after it has cured ,.. you ca add length to the little tube if you're creative enough ..
 
M. D. said:
Take a can of that spray foam and make a wall from t&g to sub floor above the appropriate distance away from the fixture ,.. rip away any over fill after it has cured ,.. you ca add length to the little tube if you're creative enough ..
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I've gone this route before. Works ok.
Chicken wire seems a bit porus to me.
 
Actually not true.

Actually not true.

M. D. said:
welcome to the forum,.... the guy has installed these cans after the finish.. so whatever he uses has to fit through a 4"1/8 hole ..
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I apologize if I mislead you but I have pretty good access to cans in attic. The GC installed T and G ceiling in 2 rooms prior to inviting me to rough. Did one room in new build cans from above pain the ..... These are vauted ceilings with scissor truss above making 5ft standing room at peak of the A. The reason I used remodel in the other room was because Home Depot had non ic rated lowvoltage cans on clearances for $7 with bulbs and trim. Very easy install was hoping they weren't going to use blown in but they are now I need to protect them. The stucco guys have this tight mess stuff all over the jobsite I was going to use but want opinions, thought there might be a fast way out there. On a service call once I saw a 6in can from in the attic with what looked like an aluminum foil type paper staped in the shape of a cone? Anyone else seen this? Thanks for the input.
 
Hey isn't it the insulators responsibility to keep his insulation off of your lights ? It is up to the painter to keep paint off the glass. :smile:
 
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