Trimmed Wires Violation Code

[K8MHZ]

I say hack-y because it is; the original electrician could have at least turned the conductors 180* so that the cut strands arent visible (unless there's another 3 cut on the backside, in which case a 90* flip would have been prudent)

The way I was trained was to cut the center strands out and hide the cut ends with the outer strands. If done properly, the inspector can't tell the 'haircut' has been done.

 

[electricman2]

I love those connectors - cheap, easy to install and they have many vital uses.

Same here. I keep a few of 2 sizes. Real handy some times

 

[tkb]

The way I was trained was to cut the center strands out and hide the cut ends with the outer strands. If done properly, the inspector can't tell the 'haircut' has been done.

Same here. :thumbsup:

 

[jumper]

The way I was trained was to cut the center strands out and hide the cut ends with the outer strands. If done properly, the inspector can't tell the 'haircut' has been done.

Ooh that's good.

 

[Carultch]

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Blackbur...lid-Barrier-Wire-Stop-ASR2506-B1-10/100190266

These come in various sizes and allow you to legally change wire sizes.

Also good for connecting AL to CU.

What product are you supposed to use as an insulator for that?

 

[Carultch]

The danger is that wire is sized to the load it will carry, and trimming that wire will reduce its load capacity, and increase heat, possibly to the point of fire. You could also have significant voltage drop and equipment problems.

That the wire wont fit the breaker means it's oversized anyway for w/e reason. Giving it a haircut is hack-y and against code.

That said, most things arent run to a margin where losing a strand or two is going to cause problems, but Ive seen where close to half the wire is missing; 3 10ton AC units triple stabbed into a 250A breaker, which was wrong on many levels.

Polaris connectors are already insulated and the two extra connections add negligible resistance.

If the wire is significantly oversized for voltage drop, and the total kcmil that remains in the terminal is still plenty to carry the current, do those physical consequences to trimming away strands still apply? We know it is a violation but the real physical hazards are the question.

 

[peter d]

What product are you supposed to use as an insulator for that?

Tape or you can go all out and use heat shrink if it makes you feel better.

 

[jap]

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Blackbur...lid-Barrier-Wire-Stop-ASR2506-B1-10/100190266

These come in various sizes and allow you to legally change wire sizes.

Also good for connecting AL to CU.

I guess I'm just different.
This would be my last choice for something to use to downsize the wire prior to landing it on a breaker.

JAP>

 

[jap]

I'm with post #13 on the pin adapter.

JAP>

 

[peter d]

I'm with post #13 on the pin adapter.

JAP>

I'm not, pin adapters are size specific and have multiple pin sizes, and require a very expensive crimper. Several splicer/reducers cover a wide range of wire sizes and require no expensive tools at all.

 

[jap]

I'm not, pin adapters are size specific and have multiple pin sizes, and require a very expensive crimper. Several splicer/reducers cover a wide range of wire sizes and require no expensive tools at all.

That's why I make the big bucks.

JAP>

 

[jap]

And what you stated is also the exact reason I dislike them so much.

JAP>

 

[peter d]

That's why I make the big bucks.

JAP>

I prefer to be creative and carry less material. :thumbsup:

 

[peter d]

And what you stated is also the exact reason I dislike them so much.

JAP>

That makes no sense at all.

 

[jap]

That makes no sense at all.

Several splicer/reducers cover a wide range of wire sizes and require no expensive tools at all.

Yes it does.


They cover such a wide range that they don't fit good at all.

I prefer to use a crimp on pin adapter for a specific wire size and use my expensive crimp tool, but, to each his own.

JAP>

 

[jap]

I prefer to be creative and carry less material. :thumbsup:

I understand.
I've come along behind several creative electricians which allowed me to buy the expensive crimp tool for my pin adapters. :thumbsup:

JAP>

 

[kwired]

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Blackbur...lid-Barrier-Wire-Stop-ASR2506-B1-10/100190266

These come in various sizes and allow you to legally change wire sizes.

Also good for connecting AL to CU.

The information on that page says it is a Blackburn product and is 250-6 AWG, the image for it shows an ILSCO product and for size 2-14 AWG:blink:

 

[tkb]

The information on that page says it is a Blackburn product and is 250-6 AWG, the image for it shows an ILSCO product and for size 2-14 AWG:blink:

What did you expect from home crappo?

 

[Michael15956]

I'm not, pin adapters are size specific and have multiple pin sizes, and require a very expensive crimper. Several splicer/reducers cover a wide range of wire sizes and require no expensive tools at all.

I'll sell you one Hack. Good price, I'm getting ready to retire.

 

[iwire]

Is this your first day here? :huh:

Deal with it, try harder to stay on topic.