Troubleshooting ~ elusive neutral ???
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tx2step
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Re: Troubleshooting ~ elusive neutral ???
I just hate it when I have to ask a stupid question, but that's never stopped me yet.
So... would one of you tell me what (or who) a "BIL" is?
I just hate it when I have to ask a stupid question, but that's never stopped me yet.
So... would one of you tell me what (or who) a "BIL" is?
tx2step
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Re: Troubleshooting ~ elusive neutral ???
jbfan74 -- Thanks!
Celtic -- Oops! I read the thread a couple of times and somehow I still managed to miss your initial definition of BIL.
Guess I'd better cut back on the late-night wine?
Thanks!
jbfan74 -- Thanks!
Celtic -- Oops! I read the thread a couple of times and somehow I still managed to miss your initial definition of BIL.
Guess I'd better cut back on the late-night wine?
Thanks!
Re: Troubleshooting ~ elusive neutral ???
$3594.26 to "replace" 1 GFCI.
Job total: $5894.26 (Contract on other "code violation" work $2300.00)
I don't feel "bad" - but any sane person would have to ask: " $3600.00 to replace 1 stinky GFCI ? ? ? "
When you consider it took 54 man-hours to trace the "lost neutral" (that was behind the HO's favorite kitchen chair the whole friggin' time while he keep tight lipped), and add in a few bucks for misc. material it's pretty easy to hit 3.6k.
Would anyone offer any sort of discount here?
Well..you asked..so here it is:
$3594.26 to "replace" 1 GFCI.
Job total: $5894.26 (Contract on other "code violation" work $2300.00)
I don't feel "bad" - but any sane person would have to ask: " $3600.00 to replace 1 stinky GFCI ? ? ? "
When you consider it took 54 man-hours to trace the "lost neutral" (that was behind the HO's favorite kitchen chair the whole friggin' time while he keep tight lipped), and add in a few bucks for misc. material it's pretty easy to hit 3.6k.
Would anyone offer any sort of discount here?
southernboys
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Re: Troubleshooting ~ elusive neutral ???
The fact that the ho and bil wired the house originally no. They made the work harder then had the origional electrician done the job. Did ho know about the ac not being bonded? Or is he playing stupid? In my opinion were here to make mony. Did this job take you away from another one? Is your helper willing to take a cut in pay then why should you. I have to thank this forum for changing my mind as to how to bid and run a company.
The fact that the ho and bil wired the house originally no. They made the work harder then had the origional electrician done the job. Did ho know about the ac not being bonded? Or is he playing stupid? In my opinion were here to make mony. Did this job take you away from another one? Is your helper willing to take a cut in pay then why should you. I have to thank this forum for changing my mind as to how to bid and run a company.
Re: Troubleshooting ~ elusive neutral ???
The HO and BIL did not do the original wiring, but did enough "modifications" that, IMHO, the WHOLE house needs to be rewired....while repaired the the flying splice in the wall, my guy found ANOTHER box right below it.
I wish I had my camera with me to take pictures of all the buried boxes/slices we found. Some walls now resemble Swiss cheese.
Naturally, the HO is playing dumb...and the BIL remains drunk from 9AM until we leave - I think he wakes up drunk. The HO is plenty POed at the BIL's "work" - and rightfully so.
I agree..thank god for this forum and you other conscientious ECs.
Thanks to all who played in this episode of: "Let's find the neutral"...stay tuned for next weeks show: "Let's get the customer to pay before they have a heart attack!"
[EDIT: removed copied quote from SB]
[ July 12, 2005, 10:54 PM: Message edited by: celtic ]
The HO and BIL did not do the original wiring, but did enough "modifications" that, IMHO, the WHOLE house needs to be rewired....while repaired the the flying splice in the wall, my guy found ANOTHER box right below it.
I wish I had my camera with me to take pictures of all the buried boxes/slices we found. Some walls now resemble Swiss cheese.
Naturally, the HO is playing dumb...and the BIL remains drunk from 9AM until we leave - I think he wakes up drunk. The HO is plenty POed at the BIL's "work" - and rightfully so.
I agree..thank god for this forum and you other conscientious ECs.
...maybe you should seek professional helpOriginally posted by physis:
I can't help but feel I should be in for a piece of that action.
Thanks to all who played in this episode of: "Let's find the neutral"...stay tuned for next weeks show: "Let's get the customer to pay before they have a heart attack!"
[EDIT: removed copied quote from SB]
[ July 12, 2005, 10:54 PM: Message edited by: celtic ]
hurk27
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Re: Troubleshooting ~ elusive neutral ???
Why would you want to end up like BIL Physis?
That was good Celtic.
Why would you want to end up like BIL Physis?
hurk27
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Re: Troubleshooting ~ elusive neutral ???
Sorry Sam I couldn't resist. since there was only two options (part of figuring out that mess or BIL) I had to pick the later.
Sorry Sam I couldn't resist. since there was only two options (part of figuring out that mess or BIL) I had to pick the later.
hurk27
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Re: Troubleshooting ~ elusive neutral ???
That's ok Sam My best friend always says when she wins the lotery shes going to send me to joke school.
That's ok Sam My best friend always says when she wins the lotery shes going to send me to joke school.
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