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" you say you need an electrician, well I just had an electrical problem solved by Joe,.. but Bob , the electrician that walked away , he's the one you really want to hire"

you really think it works that way??
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Obviously it did, because they just called me to install a few light fixtures, and possibly a panel change
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Anyway - the best tool is your head...
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You don't have to tell me this............

 
Although this is not something I would normally do, I believe It was the implementation: I provided the customer with a referral, and let them retain their money to put towards that referral. This says a lot!!!! Brief comment: I believe my question was simple! I've lost a tremendous amount of respect for a few of you on here. Your somewhat swank of genius shows a lack of brilliance. I was purely saying I gave up for the first time. We all have those days!!!
 
cowboyjwc said:
I was like Cow. Walked away promising to be back when maybe I was just more rested. Many a night woke up and said "got it!" Even if what I thought wasn't it, it usually put me closer than I had been. I never had more than the tools in my pouch.

And never ever let the POCO off the hook, just because they say it's not theirs.
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True!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
e57 said:
Well sometimes you need to state the obvious - there are some who think having a bigger better more expensive tool will get them out of thinking or effort....
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So how many expensive tools do you own :D

Most tools I possess only make my job easier!! Never said they could or should think for me! Yet, there is nothing wrong with having a proficient tool--helping you get to your goal faster!! It does take some thinking, and understanding to operate most tools??..
 
All in all, thanks for the input. I was hoping I wasn't the only one to give up for the first time. Yet it seems for the most part, I am!!!! :cool:

The good news: It landed me more work!!! ;)
 
resistance said:
Obviously it did, because they just called me to install a few light fixtures, and possibly a panel change
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Well, I stand corrected. You must have a good relation with the H.O. ..You must admit it knida flies in the face free market economics .

you were unable to solve the problem,.. did not charge them , as a customer ,I'd expect that.. then refered the work to a guy who could solve the problem ,.. and this got you more work?? Are you sure you want that tracer?? didn't do that guy much good:)
 
M. D. said:
Well, I stand corrected. You must have a good relation with the H.O. ..You must admit it knida flies in the face free market economics .

you were unable to solve the problem,.. did not charge them , as a customer ,I'd expect that.. then refered the work to a guy who could solve the problem ,.. and this got you more work?? Are you sure you want that tracer?? didn't do that guy much good:)
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LOL!!!! Yeah, I still need a tool that will expedite my work!!!
Acutally the referral called me--too thank me. During the call, I asked him how did he find it, and he told me he hooked-up his equipment, and it lead him to the outlet--he mentioned all the junk he had to deal with--but that's a different topic. My tool was picking up noise on the circuit. The signal was pretty much dead. Yet, that isn't my excuse for giving-up. I gave up for a few reasons--which isn't normal for me.
The customer was referred to me.. Unfortunately, I wasn?t able to conclude their project as I did with the referring customer. Both had the same problem.
 
M. D.;1115395since he can show how nasty those back wired connections are:)quote said:
Have been backstabbing for years and NEVER had a problem. I always give the connection a good tug to verify it properly seated.
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