Two meter sockets?

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wrobotronic

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Well it seems as though since my Cubbies won the world series, I have been seeing some strange things going on. Or perhaps its the Super Moon.

In any event, I have an HO who moved his meter socket combo to the backside of a new garage and then feeds the old meter socket combo panel on his house. Does he have to replace the old combo panel with one that does not have a meter socket on it?

or can he simply pass through the old socket to feed his house branches?

It seems illogical to allow this, but I cannot find a code section that says he cant. So my logic doesn't matter.

TYIA,
Wrobo
 
How would the HO safely bypass the second socket? surely, you wouldn't want me use some sort of jumper made of #8 and jap wrap. Perhaps I am as dumb as the electrons.... But it just doesn't seem safe or proper to not use equipment for which it is rated and meant to be used for.
 
There's nothing other than a meter that's made to go into the stabs of a meterbase.
Anything this HO does with this setup will be a jury rig.

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They do make plastic insets to meter socket -- reroute the old meter feed to line side of panel -- some might agree the meter socket will hold fuses -- call your AHJ it will become his issue not yours -- do you have a state inspector ? of local county/city inspector
 
Id Put a 3r Breaker Panel with feed thru lugs in place of the old meter main and do away with any need for the rest of all this.


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It'd keep all my coworkers from thinking that I'd lost my mind when I didn't remove the 1st one when I put the new one in.

:p

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wrobotronic said:
How would the HO safely bypass the second socket? surely, you wouldn't want me use some sort of jumper made of #8 and jap wrap. Perhaps I am as dumb as the electrons.... But it just doesn't seem safe or proper to not use equipment for which it is rated and meant to be used for.
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It's not being used outside of its rating or purpose it's just doesn't have a meter. They make meter jumpers and meter blanks. Maybe that's what iwire linked to, I didn't look.
 
So are those jumpers and the plastic blanking cover with jumpers rated as a disconnecting means ? seeing as how the home owner could now pull either one himself under a load, where as that's not the case when a meter compartment is sealed by the power company like its supposed to be.

I'm surprised at the suggestions of using these parts and pieces to be used for something they are not actually made for.

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jap said:
So are those jumpers and the plastic blanking cover with jumpers rated as a disconnecting means ? seeing as how the home owner could now pull either one himself under a load, where as that's not the case when a meter compartment is sealed by the power company like its supposed to be.

I'm surprised at the suggestions of using these parts and pieces to be used for something they are not actually made for.

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Here, the socket could be jumpered and covered, but it would still be tag locked out by the POCO. In order for the HO to pull the jumpers, the POCO tag would have to be cut.
 
K8MHZ said:
Here, the socket could be jumpered and covered, but it would still be tag locked out by the POCO. In order for the HO to pull the jumpers, the POCO tag would have to be cut.
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Not in this case because the home owner is leaving the old meter base on the house and refeeding it from a new one.
Around here the power company would not provide a jumper or seal on (2) meters.
Only the primary meter.

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jap said:
So are those jumpers and the plastic blanking cover with jumpers rated as a disconnecting means ? seeing as how the home owner could now pull either one himself under a load, where as that's not the case when a meter compartment is sealed by the power company like its supposed to be.

I'm surprised at the suggestions of using these parts and pieces to be used for something they are not actually made for.

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Meters and meter sockets are not rated as disconnecting means so why would the jumpers have to be?
 
The feeder to the house in this case would become just that.
The power company probably wouldn't have a say on the load side of the first overcurrent protection.

If nothing else I would think the inspector should catch the fact that the meter jumpers nor the plastic cover with jumpers are an acceptable means of disconnect since they are now under to homeowners ownership and not the power company.



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iwire said:
Meters and meter sockets are not rated as disconnecting means so why would the jumpers have to be?
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Because if the homeowner refed the existing Combo Meter main on the house then the portion between the 1st combo and the house is now a feeder, not service conductors and the jumpers or the plastic cover with the jumpers could be removed at the house under load since the power company does not own that portion anymore.

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