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Type 2 SPD installed as a Type 1 SPD in ATS for standby generator

MrTomas

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Yes the conductor strands are poorly trimmed.
Check the instructions on the SPD, type 2 mat require connection to a 2 pole 20 or 30 amp breaker, not as shown
It’s violation to have more than one wire under a lug. The SPD nipple into the panel isn’t waterproof
All of which your inspector should find
Tom, can you point me to the NEC section for "It’s violation to have more than one wire under a lug."? Thanks!
 

NEC Inspector

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Kansas
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110.3(B) - Equipment has to be installed in accordance with the instructions it was listed with. Those lugs are not listed by the manufacturer and the testing laboratory to have a tiny wire and a big wire under the same lug.

110.14 - Conductors of dissimilar metals shall not be intermixed in a terminal unless it is listed for that application. The surge protector I handled yesterday had tinned copper wires, and I am assuming that the one you have does as well. The big wire in that terminal is aluminum. Copper causes aluminum to corrode due to galvanic action.
 

Greentagger

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Texas
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Carbon monoxide detectors required per Generac installation instructions and per NFPA 72.
 

NEC Inspector

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Kansas
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Code section of NFPA 72?

It would not be required per Exception 1 of R315.2.2 of the International Residential Code unless the generator was installed indoors.
 

dkidd

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Greentagger

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Texas
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Code section of NFPA 72?

It would not be required per Exception 1 of R315.2.2 of the International Residential Code unless the generator was installed indoors.
You may be correct. Thanks for the insight. I’m unable to access references for further comment or review. I have seen and read the requirement in Generacs manufacture’s installation instructions. With that no other requirements or references needed.
 
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