Under cabinet outlets?

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I chose not to cut the bracing and put the plug mold along the bottom in the center. Can't really see it unless you look under the cabinets. Call me chicken. ;-)
 
We don't always cut it.
Sometimes we will drill a hole through the brace, and run wire, or wiremold flex, but this requires more end feeds.
We try not to use end feeds when there is no molding on the bottom of the cabinets because they are more visible, and can be an eyesore to some people.
 
I've installed the plugmold, too under top cabinets. The only problem I see is that if you want to keep an appliance plugged in on the counter, then you see the cord hanging from the cabinet above. I guess that's a design/ use choice. I'd need a receptacle behind my coffee pot. Pierre, you must have one organized kitchen! BTW, if I were inspecting your kitchen I'd have laughed at myself.
 
Maybe im slipping....But if you feed 2 gfci devices and share the neutral on the line side but seperate the neutrals on the load side why would they trip????The gfci detects the neutral on the load side and not the line side.You can have a neutral to ground fault on a gfci circuit and install gfci devices at each receptacle that has the line side neutral to ground fault and never trip one device by line siding each device.
 
allenwayne said:
Maybe im slipping....But if you feed 2 gfci devices and share the neutral on the line side but seperate the neutrals on the load side why would they trip????The gfci detects the neutral on the load side and not the line side.You can have a neutral to ground fault on a gfci circuit and install gfci devices at each receptacle that has the line side neutral to ground fault and never trip one device by line siding each device.
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That not what he said. He mentioned sharing the neutral on the load side by using a two circuit plugmold with a 12/3 cable.
 
infinity said:
That not what he said. He mentioned sharing the neutral on the load side by using a two circuit plugmold with a 12/3 cable.
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My bad i thought he said a 3 wire on the line side would trip the device:)
 
Can plug mold be cut into sections.

Can plug mold be cut into sections.

I bought the wiremold plugmold V20GB506 unit that has 10 outlets. I was thinking of cuting it into three twos outlet and one four outlet strip by using the accessory packages (end covers / connectors). I would then direct wire each strip to a box in my cellar with ground fault protector (s).

I was just going to hack saw the unit where I needed to and clip the wires at the points. I would then wire nut the ends that were not used.

I am missing something? Any feedback would be appriciated.

This is my first time writing on a forum so I hopefully have done it correctly.
 
I haven?t stirred up any pots lately, so perhaps I?m due. :D

I do not see anything wrong with undercabinet outlets, other than the small detail that they violate the NEC.:confused:

The way I read 210.52(C)(1), the receptacle outlet has to be on the wall. You must install a receptacle outlet ?at each wall counter space? that is over 12 inches wide. Such outlets must be installed such that ?no point along the wall line is more than 24 inches measured horizontally from a receptacle outlet IN THAT SPACE.? The measurement is not vertical (i.e., up to the underside of the cabinet), but horizontal, along the wall line. And the measurement is from a receptacle that is in the wall counter space. The question then, is whether the bottom of a cabinet is ?in the wall counter space.? I don?t think so, as the cabinet is not a wall.

Also, please note that the verbiage in Exception 2 to 210.52(C)(5) relates to islands and peninsulas, not to countertops mounted against walls.
 
Plugmold outlet strip undercabinet

Plugmold outlet strip undercabinet

Hello charlie b

I have a trim board on the front of the cabinets 1.25" that hides the undercabinet lighting in the front of the cabinet and the outlet strip would be behind thataganist the wall. I could fasten it to the wall board just under the cabinets.

Since I have a large island the counter tops along the wall are reasonable. 24" countertop, appliance garage (it has 4 outlets in it), 24"countertop, sink, 50"countertop, wall oven, 42"countertop. This is why I wanted to split it up the plug mold outlet strip.

"24 inches measured horizontallyrequirement": If the strip is placed in the middle of the counter top space under the cabinet, a two outlet strip could span up to 24"+24"+6" (distance between outlets) = 54"

Any thoughts. If not, thanks for the info.
 
Your addition of 24 + 24 + 6 = 54ins. between outlets answers your situation.Spacing requirements not met.
210.52 C 1 (No point along the wall measured horizontally from a receptacle outlet within that space.)
 
ty said:
Here's a picture of some installed plugmold.

If the pic doesn't work ,I'll have to fix it later.
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That install really looks good, but I think some of the home owners go overboard on looks. Too many home mags show these fancy homes, that you hardly see any receptacles or even switches. In my opinion, standard wall receptacles would look just as good, as the appliances pluged into them would hide the cords and receptacles instead of a bunch of wires sticking up the wall to the under cabnet plugmold. This is my first post to a forum, and I really enjoy the reading. Thanks guys.
 
Dennis Hamilton said:
That install really looks good, but I think some of the home owners go overboard on looks. Too many home mags show these fancy homes, that you hardly see any receptacles or even switches. In my opinion, standard wall receptacles would look just as good, as the appliances pluged into them would hide the cords and receptacles instead of a bunch of wires sticking up the wall to the under cabnet plugmold. This is my first post to a forum, and I really enjoy the reading. Thanks guys.
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You are correct some home owners and/or designers do go overboard on looks.I did a home where the homeowner specified all switches where possible were to be behind the door swing,all multi gangs would be stacked no more than 2 to an individual box and all wall receptacles were to be in the 10 in baseboard horiz. and the kitchen counter top receps were to be under the cabinets.It cost them alot to get what they wanted but they were paying for it so it was done this way.
 
allenwayne said:
Your addition of 24 + 24 + 6 = 54ins. between outlets answers your situation.Spacing requirements not met.
210.52 C 1 (No point along the wall measured horizontally from a receptacle outlet within that space.)
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Not so -- if the outlets are placed 6" apart, centered in the middle of the countertop, they are 24" from the countertop edge. Since they aren't more than 48" apart, they cover all the required spaces between them.
 
A change in the 2002 NEC was submitted by an interior designer in Montana to allow max height of the countertop receptacles to be 20". This allowed plug mold to be used on the bottom of the upper cabinets, as the upper cabinets are set at 18" above the counter.
 
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