Ungrounded Romex ( cables with no grounds) GFCI As Remedy

[Fordean]

I was told to Put a GFCI at first receptacle. Instead of hiding these buggers all around House. I did the GFI breaker solution Much neater. Problem is how you test if they work. When a conventional GFCI Plug test trip button only works with grounded Wiring types Stump. Inspector said to Install GFCI since owner change all to 3 prong devices.

 

[petersonra]

I was told to Put a GFCI at first receptacle. Instead of hiding these buggers all around House. I did the GFI breaker solution Much neater. Problem is how you test if they work. When a conventional GFCI Plug test trip button only works with grounded Wiring types Stump. Inspector said to Install GFCI since owner change all to 3 prong devices.

is the test button dependant on an EGC being present?

 

[Jon456]

is the test button dependant on an EGC being present?

I believe the OP is referring to a simple plug-in tester, not the test button on the GFCI breaker. With the plug-in type tester, pushing its button leaks a little bit of current to the tester's ground prong. So for it to work, it would need a 3-prong receptacle with a functioning EGC (to provide a return path for the leaked current).

 

[infinity]

I was told to Put a GFCI at first receptacle. Instead of hiding these buggers all around House. I did the GFI breaker solution Much neater. Problem is how you test if they work. When a conventional GFCI Plug test trip button only works with grounded Wiring types Stump. Inspector said to Install GFCI since owner change all to 3 prong devices.

The three prong devices require a sticker saying that no equipment ground is present. You should be testing via the TEST button not with a GFCI tester since they will not work with no EGC present.

 

[Fordean]

Test button

Test button

is the test button dependant on an EGC being present?

I'm not exactly sure what you mean. If outlets have no grounds. How can GFCI operate. I tried to test. But dont seem to work correctly. What is the Purpose of using a GFCI to satisfy this code.

Original. 2 prong recepts. 2 wire romex no ground wire, Owner installed three prong outlets. Code inspector states. and various Searching I done. GFCI will satisfy this (3 prong plug install) as long, as its installed at first device.
(I installed breakers). But a GFCI Test plug tripper. Needs a ground to trip GFI/Breaker. How to test this. Will GFCI work. Only on a unbalance?

 

[infinity]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean. If outlets have no grounds. How can GFCI operate. I tried to test. But dont seem to work correctly. What is the Purpose of using a GFCI to satisfy this code.

Original. 2 prong recepts. 2 wire romex no ground wire, Owner installed three prong outlets. Code inspector states. and various Searching I done. GFCI will satisfy this (3 prong plug install) as long, as its installed at first device.
(I installed breakers). But a GFCI Test plug tripper. Needs a ground to trip GFI/Breaker. How to test this. Will GFCI work. Only on a unbalance?

The GFCI monitors the current flow between the hot and neutral and does not need an EGC to operate. Your tester needs an EGC to properly test the GFCI because it sends some of the current to ground to simulate a current imbalance.

 

[suemarkp]

There is a LINE and a LOAD side to a GFCI. The TEST button leaks current from the LOAD hot to the LINE neutral, sees the load side imbalance, and trips.

The test button on a GFCI receptacle or GFCI breaker doesn't need the grounding wire (and there is no place for one on a GFCI breaker how could it care about grounding wires).

To use the receptacle approach, you have to ensure that the downstream receptacles you want to GFCI protect are wired to the LOAD side.