USE-2 cable in main panel...?

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pjwinstalls said:
not sure what you mean "Or you could look for the type of the individual conductors in the cable." its USE cable.? I am a little slow tonight
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It was kinda late, didn't feel like opening my NEC, and I'm a bit slow all the time, but I neant that the individual conductors in many cables are themselves marked with an insulation type, such as XHHW and the like.

Okay, today, I see in ('02) 338.10 (B)(4)(b):
Type USE shall be permitted to be terminated in enclosures at an indoor location where Type USE cable emerges from the ground. The length of the cable extending indoors to the first termination box shall not exceed 1.8 m (6 ft). Where Type USE cable emerges from the ground at terminations, it shall be protected in accordance with 300.5(D).
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Granted, this applies to USE used as a feeder, and not for a service-entrance. So, what would it take for the USE to be considered a feeder, and not a service cable? A main disconnect ahead of it?
 
That's weird. This section changed from '02 to '05, and in so doing, lost the 6' provision, but it doesn't look intentional. Looking at the ROP's and ROC's, it looks like when the wholesale deletion was proposed by the TCC, and later taken back by the CMP, the 6' bit just fell off the wagon somewhere.

Weird. :?:

Edit: You have to keep reading! :D

Found it. It was intentionally deleted because of the lack of fire-retardant covering. ROP's 7-190 & 7-191.
 
George it is not in my 2002 NECH CD-ROM.

I took a look at an errata pdf at NFPA and could not find it either.

I have not checked my 2002 NEC Book yet, it got soaked and is now moldy.

I also did not find info one way or the other in my IAEI book of changes.

:? :?
 
I think I have a first printing.

It is 2002 338.10(B)(4)(b), second paragraph.

CMP-7 said:
Comment 7-101 to reject Proposal 7-209 was accepted in the 2002 Code cycle which would delete the text as requested in the proposal.
Deletion of these two sentences was included in the December 2002 NEC Errata.
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Ive read this thru twice.

Why is the meter "off" the house? Is it mobile?

Is the 200 A SDQO a MLO?

The "load" side of meter USE, is it protected with MB service rated equipment before entering the house?

I must have missed something.

In my local, this would not fly. Point of attachment, point of entrance, service entrance and USE with no insulated ground. Hmmm. Service equipment remote? I just dont get this one.

Sounds like everybody gets it but me.
 
this is what we are doing.... look at page 28 http://www.lipower.org/pdfs/commercial/redbook/Chapter11.pdf

homeowner does want it on the house since it is so big. It is located about 18 feet away, in the side yard.

Line come down pole via overhead, direct burial to H-frame as shown above, load leaves meter back to direct burial for 18ft, comes back above ground via sch80 pvc for 3ft then goes through exterior wall with conduit directly into back on panel. Not a mobile house.
 
Gmack said:
Why is the meter "off" the house? Is it mobile?
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gmack the NEC does not care where the meter is located that is up to the power company. The location of the meter does not change where we are required to bond and separate the grounded and grounding conductors.
 
This topic has come up before, and I don't think anyone has responded to this angle, but most (and maybe all) USE is also marked RHH, which is flame retardant. So if your USE is indeed also marked RHH, then i don't see a problem. If someone tells me I cant use THHN in a wet location, I would say, "well....yeah, but in the real world find me a THHN that isn't also marked THWN.
 
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