Use the box for support of the conduit?

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Thanks for posting the online version, I just looked at what I uploaded and it was all but illegible, and was just starting to go look for it. :cool:

I'm looking at the "Drop Wire or Flange" instructions, and it says that bracket can be self-tapping-screwed to the box. Does that affect your opinion?
 
Frank, interesting read on the exception - but I'd venture to say that is reading something into it that can be argued, but isn't spelled out in the words, IMO. (I don't have a copy of the handbook, so I can't speak about that.)

Your second post is something I've done from time to time. Then again, the instructions only show conduits at 90? angles to each other, so I suppose 20? angles wouldn't be permitted either. ;) :D
 
georgestolz said:
I'm looking at the "Drop Wire or Flange" instructions, and it says that bracket can be self-tapping-screwed to the box. Does that affect your opinion?
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I haven't seen this ass'y up close and personal. What holds the "batwing" to the bracket and/or box?

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Smart $ said:
I haven't seen this ass'y up close and personal. What holds the "batwing" to the bracket and/or box?
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If you're looking at the "Threaded Rod to Beam Flange" section, look at step 2.

The batwing in that diagram has a 1/4-20 stud embedded in it (I think), and then the box/bracket assembly appears to go on the stud, and then tighten a nut inside the box to complete.

I haven't actually used the batwing-stud boxholder device. It kinda gives me the willies but peaks my interest at the same time. :)
 
georgestolz said:
...the box/bracket assembly appears to go on the stud, and then tighten a nut inside the box to complete.
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As I assumed. So the screws add rigidity to the assembly and add convenience when preassembled as such. But I don't see the screws as providing the required support. That is provided via the wire, studded batwing, and nut.

I haven't actually used the batwing-stud boxholder device. It kinda gives me the willies but peaks my interest at the same time. :)
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Makes one question to what integrity does "securely fastened in place" mean :grin:
 
Off topic: I'm trying to print this thread without using 11 pages. How do I make the font smaller, you know?

(It's eleven with the printable version, 17 pages with pictures and stuff. I wanted the pictures to print, but that's a lot of paper! )
 
georgestolz said:
Off topic: I'm trying to print this thread without using 11 pages. How do I make the font smaller, you know?

(It's eleven with the printable version, 17 pages with pictures and stuff. I wanted the pictures to print, but that's a lot of paper! )
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You're on a Mac, right? ...can't help there. In WinXP using IE7 I can call up Print Preview, set the "size" drop box to 50%, and reduce the number of pages from 10 (instead of 11 most likely because my printer has small margins) to 5.
 
Smart $ said:
I haven't seen this ass'y up close and personal. What holds the "batwing" to the bracket and/or box?

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What you've posted is a multifunction clip. The center hole is tapped for a 1/4-20 bolt.
 
georgestolz said:
Smart on the PC I have IE 6.0, I don't see that option.
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Is that, you don't see the Print Preview option, or you don't see the "size" option in Print Preview?

Well since I no longer have [easy] access to IE6 and my memory fails me in this regard, perhaps an image of IE7 will help...

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Oh! Duh! Thanks a lot!

So, getting back on topic, any more opinions? Is this failworthy?

(No inspector/inspection event here, just a group of electricians talking.)
 
George,

I would compare the situation to a trapeze that is added to an existing

trapeze, I don't think anyone has a problem with it being securley fastened,

as far as the ' work discussion ' goes, maybe E-Mail Caddy and see what

kind of answer they respond with ? 110.3(B).
 
How about using an unused box to support the conduit? I know that you can use an empty conduit to support a used conduit. The metal of the box is certainly thicker than that Caddy thing.
~Peter
 
Frank, I might do that this weekend. :)

Peter, interesting concept.

I'm also kinda curious about what people would say if I said I've cut the brackets in half and drilled my own 1/4" hole in them, to support several conduits out the same side of the box. :D

Functionally speaking, nothing has changed. The all-thread is still supporting the bracket... ;)
 
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