VA Journeyman / Master / Other

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Question for the VA members, besides the Journeyman and Master classifications, is there such a thing as a "Certified Electrician" that requires testing?

Might this have been a classification 15 to 20 years ago?

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roger said:
Question for the VA members, besides the Journeyman and Master classifications, is there such a thing as a "Certified Electrician" that requires testing?

Might this have been a classification 15 to 20 years ago?
None that I'm aware of. I have Journeyman and Master on my tradesman card, and ELE, CIC, and HIC on my contractor's card (electrical, commercial improvement cont. and home improvement cont., respectively). I guess Journeyman would be the closest thing to 'certified.'

Here's what the Va. DPOR says in part, from definitions:

“Electrical work” consists of, but is not limited to, the following: (i) planning and layout of details for installation or modifications of electrical apparatus and controls including preparation of sketches showing location of wiring and equipment; (ii) measuring, cutting, bending, threading, assembling and installing electrical conduits; (iii) performing maintenance on electrical systems and apparatus; (iv) observation of installed systems or apparatus to detect hazards and need for adjustments, relocation or replacement; and (v) repairing faulty systems or apparatus.

“Electrician” means a tradesman who does electrical work including the construction, repair, maintenance, alteration or removal of electrical systems in accordance with the National Electrical Code and the Virginia Uniform Statewide Building Code.

“Helper” or “laborer” means a person who assists a licensed tradesman and who is not an apprentice as defined in this chapter.

“Apprentice” means a person who assists tradesmen while gaining knowledge of the trade through on-the-job training and related instruction in accordance with the Virginia Voluntary Apprenticeship Act (? 40.1-117 et seq. of the Code of Virginia).

“Journeyman” means a person who possesses the necessary ability, proficiency and qualifications to install, repair and maintain specific types of materials and equipment, utilizing a working knowledge sufficient to comply with the pertinent provisions of the Virginia Uniform Statewide Building Code and according to plans and specifications.

“Master” means a person who possesses the necessary ability, proficiency and qualifications to plan and lay out the details for installation and supervise the work of installing, repairing and maintaining specific types of materials and equipment utilizing a working knowledge sufficient to comply with the pertinent provisions of the Virginia Uniform Statewide Building Code.
 
At one time there was a Class "A" masters (still exist), Class "B" masters based upon dollar value of job and yearly income, Journeyman's, Then pre-state licensing some cities and counties had a limited.

This is off the cuff as I remember it, not from any verifiable source

Thinking of moving?
 
brian john said:
At one time there was a Class "A" masters (still exist), Class "B" masters based upon dollar value of job and yearly income, Journeyman's, Then pre-state licensing some cities and counties had a limited.

This is off the cuff as I remember it, not from any verifiable source

Thinking of moving?

No, just checking out someones claim of what the classifications are in VA.

Thanks Brian.

Roger
 
brian john said:
At one time there was a Class "A" masters (still exist), Class "B" masters based upon dollar value of job and yearly income, Journeyman's, Then pre-state licensing some cities and counties had a limited.
Now, there are separate contractors' classes, A, B, and C.

"Class A contractors" perform or manage construction, removal, repair, or improvements when (i) the total value referred to in a single contract or project is $120,000 or more, or (ii) the total value of all such construction, removal, repair, or improvements undertaken by such person within any 12 month period is $750,000 or more.

"Class B contractors" perform or manage construction, removal, repair, or improvements when (i) the total value referred to in a single contract or project is $7,500 or more, but less than $120,000 or (ii) the total value of all such construction, removal, repair or improvements undertaken by such person within any 12 month period is $150,000 or more, but less than $750,000.

"Class C contractors" perform or manage construction, removal, repair, or improvements when (i) the total value referred to in a single contract or project is over $1,000 but less than $7,500, or (ii) the total value of all such construction, removal, repair, or improvements undertaken by such person within any 12 month period is less than $150,000. The Board shall require a master tradesmen license as a condition of licensure for electrical, plumbing and heating, ventilation and air conditioning contractors.
 
iwire said:
Larry is an electrician and he is certifiable. :wink:
Ohhhh, yes!


A contractor's license and a master's license are completely different things.

A contractor's license is issued only to a business entity, never an individual (but it can be a sole proprietership), and is related to having a business license wherever you pay your business-related taxes.

A specialty tradesman's license is issued to a qualified individual, who must be employed by the business for it to legally contract in that trade. I happen to be both corp. president and the master cardholder.
 
Calif.you need to be certified to be employed with someone

Calif.you need to be certified to be employed with someone

and you need 32hrs.of continuing education at each renewal.Also you need 2000hrs in the field each renewal.
 
zappy said:
and you need 32hrs.of continuing education at each renewal.Also you need 2000hrs in the field each renewal.
Funny this should pop back up now. About 20 minutes ago, I completed the required CE online. My Master license expires at the end of this month, so I printed out the certificate to take with me to DPOR.

It's listed as a 3-hour (not 32) requirement each license renewal period, which is two years. I'm sure I have spent 2000 hours working the last two years. Here's the first three paragraphs, and the link to the whole thing:

http://www.dpor.virginia.gov/dporweb/tra_approved_continuing_edu.pdf

VIRGINIA BOARD FOR CONTRACTORS
APPROVED TRADESMAN CONTINUING EDUCATION PROVIDERS

The following list of education providers has been approved by the Board for Contractors to conduct training that meets the three-hour continuing education requirement for Journeyman and Master Electricians (ELE), HVAC Tradesman (HVAC), Plumbers (PLB), and the one-hour continuing education requirement for Journeyman and Master Gas Fitters, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Fitters, and Natural Gas Fitters.

Tradesmen who hold a Master and Journeyman designation only need to complete one continuing education course in the respective trade. If you have more than one trade on your license, you must complete continuing education for each trade designation noted (i.e., if you have the plumbing and electrical trade designations, you must complete three hours of continuing education for each trade, for a total of six hours).

The continuing education requirements must be fulfilled before you can renew your license. You will be required to complete the continuing education requirements during each two-year renewal period of your license. Please refer to the expiration date on your license to determine the date by which your continuing education requirement(s) must be completed. Continuing education providers are required to electronically submit rosters for each course they conduct, which are then downloaded to your individual tradesmen record.
 
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