Venting: Plan Checkers

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brycenesbitt

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This is nothing but a rant and complaint.
I'm and 2nd plan check on the same damn issue.

I drew in a couple of EVSE, and couple of spare circuits that terminate in a junction box for future use.
The plan check came back yet again with the same interpretation,
that my stubbed out future circuit is an EVSE outlet and thus prohibited under NEC 625.40.
He's probably going to come back on plan check 3 and then require GFCI for these pre-wired circuits.

The City's own energy code requires I run spare wire behind gas water heaters for a future heat pump.
But for EVSE, I can't do the same thing?

Plan checker PC2: Unit 5 and 6 shows electrical conductor running to the listed junction box and not connected. Each outlet installed for the purpose of charging electric vehicles shall be supplied by an individual branch circuit. Each circuit shall have no other outlets. [CEC 625.40]
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infinity said:
How would a plan checker know what the spare circuits are for? Do they have a crystal ball?
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Oh, they're for future EV chargers. Dude figured that out. He's got me. Guilty as charged.
I mean I could put "future electric BBQ circuit" on them just for fun.... but really they are for EVSE.... and the junction box is next to a freaking parking lot.
 
brycenesbitt said:
Oh, they're for future EV chargers. Dude figured that out. He's got me. Guilty as charged.
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I still don't understand how it can be determined that those spare conductors are not intended to be used as individual branch circuits as noted by the plan checker.
 
I don't understand how 625.40 prohibits multiple circuits, it prohibits more than one outlet per circuit but you could have a number of circuits in a raceway.
 
That's funny. Respond by pointing out the definition of "outlet". That should help them.

Outlet. A point on the wiring system at which current is taken to supply utilization equipment.

It says "is taken", not "will be taken".
 
infinity said:
I still don't understand how it can be determined that those spare conductors are not intended to be used as individual branch circuits as noted by the plan checker.
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The plan labeled them as future EVSE circuits.
His concern is there were 4 EVSE in the plan, but six circuits made up to the junction box.
Obviously if things are changed in the future either new EVSE will be introduced, or a circuit will be reassigned.
Either way it's no problem.
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The plan checker dude is a literal, checklist person, who understands almost nothing about the actual work.
In the past arguing code language just set things back.
 
brycenesbitt said:
The plan labeled them as future EVSE circuits.
His concern is there were 4 EVSE in the plan, but six circuits made up to the junction box.
Obviously if things are changed in the future either new EVSE will be introduced, or a circuit will be reassigned.
Either way it's no problem.
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The plan checker dude is a literal, checklist person, who understands almost nothing about the actual work.
In the past arguing code language just set things back.
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Well cave in to his Idiocracy or call him on his ignorance.
Maybe send him here
 
brycenesbitt said:
The plan checker dude is a literal, checklist person, who understands almost nothing about the actual work.
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Just an idea, in case it would help: show in dashed form future conduits going to future outlet locations from the junction box you are installing now. That way he can count up 6 EVSE circuits (present and future) and 6 EVSE outlet locations (present and future).

Cheers, Wayne
 
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