Violation 406.7 NON interchangeability??!!

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Just when I think I have seen it all,something else comes up. Seeing how this is a code violation of 406.7 NEC 2005, I wonder how they are able to even make these. I actually bought one just to show some of my electrical friends.

Its an adapter that is a 15 amp male to 30 amp female 125 volts !! they also have a 30 amp male to 15 amp female adapter, now this is just scary, do they not know that you can not do that?? Are they not aware that you cannot use a 30 amp ocp for a 15 amp cord?? Check out the site, I did not see any UL listings so I do not believe it is aproved, or at least I hope not.
What do you do think??


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The power maximizer was the best one listed it parallels the 15 and 30 amp plug into a 50 amp female you can plug into and it is pattent pending!!
 
I've seen those types of things in commercial building and schools where they would install a 30 amp receptacle for a big floor polishing machine and then the maintenance people would use an adapter to plug in a 120 volt vacuum.
 
brother said:
Just when I think I have seen it all,something else comes up. Seeing how this is a code violation of 406.7 NEC 2005, I wonder how they are able to even make these.
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You can pretty much make anything you want, it is up to the user to comply with the rules.
 
iwire said:
You can pretty much make anything you want, it is up to the user to comply with the rules.
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Thats just it, do these manufacturers really think that the 'user' will comply with the rules?? If they did, then there would not be a demand for this product and they wouldnt seel them. I wonder what would happen in an extreme scenerio, where the wire/hook up did actually catch fire cause the ocp was over sized (ie 30 to 15) and caused major damage or death. Would the manufacturer be held liable or would they say its the users responsibility ?? Attornys would have a 'hay day' with that one.

Sounds like a job for the consumer product safety commission. ;)
 
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brother said:
Thats just it, do these manufacturers really think that the 'user' will comply with the rules?? If they did, then there would not be a demand for this product and they wouldnt seel them. I wonder what would happen in an extreme scenerio, where the wire/hook up did actually catch fire cause the ocp was over sized (ie 30 to 15) and caused major damage or death. Would the manufacturer be held liable or would they say its the users responsibility ?? Attornys would have a 'hay day' with that one.

Sounds like a job for the consumer product safety commission. ;)
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I hear what you are saying but is it really any different from someone pluging in a 18awg extension cord in a 20 amp recept. circut and then plugging in a 2000 watt portable electric heater in the ext. cord. People can find more ways to harm themselves than one can imagine.
 
elohr46 said:
I hear what you are saying but is it really any different from someone pluging in a 18awg extension cord in a 20 amp recept. circut and then plugging in a 2000 watt portable electric heater in the ext. cord. People can find more ways to harm themselves than one can imagine.
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I think there is a difference. Its one thing when people come up with it themselves its another thing when the manufacturer makes a product that intentionally violates or enable people to violate these safety rules.
 
iwire said:
You can pretty much make anything you want, it is up to the user to comply with the rules.
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To add to this, who is going to enforce it ? As long as it is not installed as part of an inspected job ?
 
If you use that RV adaptor to feed your RV, you're not going to have very much overfused cord before you hit the RV's breaker panel. Not much different than service entrance conductors for a house.
 
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