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billdozier

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gulf coast
Hey guys just wondering how many of you contracters have a guy drive to the shop on a monday. Only to tell him he has no work for the day. So now hes gotten up early. Drove 20 minutes to the shop. Wasted a weekend he could have been gathering work. And gets sent home without pay. Is this not complete bulldung? What would you do if your employeer did this to you. And there was an ad in the paper for electricians?
 

Mule

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Oklahoma
Hey guys just wondering how many of you contracters have a guy drive to the shop on a monday. Only to tell him he has no work for the day. So now hes gotten up early. Drove 20 minutes to the shop. Wasted a weekend he could have been gathering work. And gets sent home without pay. Is this not complete bulldung? What would you do if your employeer did this to you. And there was an ad in the paper for electricians?

Times are tough, and perhaps he should have called you at home. Always a shocker..... But give him the possible credit as he may have been delaying his decision waiting to see if any other work came in, and, out of respect,he may have prefered to tell you in person. Only you know.................:)
 

tonyou812

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North New Jersey
that stinks man. If I had guys I would definaltly call them in the am or at least leave them a text message on their phones. You can pretty much have a standard snow day message programed in your phone and have it ready to send out.
 

brian john

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Leesburg, VA
Today I told my guys no work due to weather and customers canceled. Some were on the road already for a 7:00 AM job because they live so far out, driving my truck and gas. I feel that if they lived closer they would not suffer this fate. If it had been much later and this happened I would cover them for 2 hours.

In your case I would cover you for 2 or 3 hours as you showing up for a possible job is a benefit to me.
 
Even in the good times some employers just don't have a handle on things. If he didn't have work lined up for the next week he knew it long before this morning.

When the issue was OT... did they tell you on wednesday that they were getting pressured because the job was behind? Tell you to plan on working 10's (or 12's) next wek to catch up... or do they have a habit of coming around at 2pm and announcing 'we're working late today' ??
 

iwire

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Here in MA if you show up for a scheduled work time and are sent home it is a three hour minimum pay.

REPORTING PAY
455 C.M.R. 2.03(1)

When an employee who is scheduled to work three or more hours reports for duty at the time set by the employer, and that employee is not provided with the expected hours of work, the employee shall be paid for at least three hours on such day at no less than the basic minimum wage. This provision shall not apply to organizations granted status as charitable organizations under the Internal Revenue Code.
 

celtic

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Location
NJ
What would you do if your employer did this to you?

On the flip-side, has he paid you for any days you were "not there" 100% of the time...either because you missed an entire day for whatever reason, were performing at less than your normal production level due to illness/personal issues?

While I feel for you....maybe he has some of these issues as well.
I would ask him to give a courtesy call to me in the future....as I am sure many of us do when we cannot make it in for whatever reason....and I would continue to see what positions are available else where.
 

celtic

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NJ
Here in MA if you show up for a scheduled work time and are sent home it is a three hour minimum pay.

... the employee shall be paid for at least three hours on such day at no less than the basic minimum wage.

What is "basic minimum wage"?
- Your average hourly pay...including any that might be derived from OT [say a 6/10 schedule...that would bump up the per hour]
- Your "basic" hourly pay [w/no provisions for OT adjustment]
- State minimum basic wage
 

iwire

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Location
Massachusetts
What is "basic minimum wage"?
- Your average hourly pay...including any that might be derived from OT [say a 6/10 schedule...that would bump up the per hour]
- Your "basic" hourly pay [w/no provisions for OT adjustment]
- State minimum basic wage

I think they could pay me just the state minimum wage for those three hours, they don't have to pay my normal rate.
 

satcom

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If I had a guy come in , and then sent him home, I paid him 2 hours pay, that simple, I sounds like you were working for someone that had no clue on how to operate a business, my bet is his life is messed up and he may also have money problems, best you move on.
 

JohnJ0906

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Location
Baltimore, MD
Hey guys just wondering how many of you contracters have a guy drive to the shop on a monday. Only to tell him he has no work for the day. So now hes gotten up early. Drove 20 minutes to the shop. Wasted a weekend he could have been gathering work. And gets sent home without pay. Is this not complete bulldung? What would you do if your employeer did this to you. And there was an ad in the paper for electricians?

We get a phone call the night before if we don't have any service calls or jobs scheduled.

I was actually told Saturday to stay home today.
 

qcroanoke

Sometimes I don't know if I'm the boxer or the bag
Location
Roanoke, VA.
Occupation
Sorta retired........
"What would you do if your employeer did this to you. And there was an ad in the paper for electricians?"

Was the ad in the paper from your shop?
If it is I would be looking for another job or at the very least I'd be wondering about how secure my job was......
 

Fulthrotl

~Autocorrect is My Worst Enema.~
Here in MA if you show up for a scheduled work time and are sent home it is a three hour minimum pay.

normal and customary (around here) is if ya show up, you get two hours
pay. if you work, and are sent home, you get four hours pay. if you work
past 4 hours, and get sent home, you get 8 hours pay.

at your normal pay scale. not minimum wage.:D

i was working in a refinery, in bakersfield, and driving in every morning.
it was a 300 mile round trip from long beach. as it was winter, and allowing
for snow and ice on the backside of grapevine, and tule fog on hwy 99,
i needed to be going 80 MPH at 3:00 am, for a 6 am start.

the employer knew this. there was a monday morning i had car trouble, and
called in at 5 to see if it was even worth driving in... they were adamant that
i had to come in, it was an important day, yada, yada.....

so i drive thru rush hour in LA, over the river and thru the woods, and get
to the jobsite, and they send me into the shop, (12 miles farther).

upon my arrival, they present me with a check for two hours show up pay,
and a termination slip. reduction in force. they could have just told me over
the phone, and fedex'd the check. but they treated all their employees that
way.... the condom school of employee relations:

"you are crucial to the success of our project here, we can't do it without
you, you are key..... but in about 5 minutes, you are going to be turned
inside out, and thrown in the trash."

they are out of business now, bankrupt. couldn't have happened to nicer or
more deserving people..... looks like what goes around, finally arrived.:D
 

brian john

Senior Member
Location
Leesburg, VA
Even in the good times some employers just don't have a handle on things. If he didn't have work lined up for the next week he knew it long before this morning.??

Our OT is quite often last second, as for work last week we had almost no work lined up, ended keeping everyone busy with a last minute EM call.
 
If life was fair and easy, it would be boring as well. I have had issues with employers and employees, customers, building officials, bankers, insurance people, customers, did I mention customers, suppliers, material, partners, payments, no money...you name it and I have had to deal with it over the last 34 years.


With that said, the best rule I have learned (and it was a learning experience...) in coping with any of the above mentioned situations is to not loose my temper. Make no decisions when mad and learn that it if it is not going to affect my life in 20 years from now, it is not enough to frazzle me.
 

Dnkldorf

Senior Member
Hey guys just wondering how many of you contracters have a guy drive to the shop on a monday. Only to tell him he has no work for the day. So now hes gotten up early. Drove 20 minutes to the shop. Wasted a weekend he could have been gathering work. And gets sent home without pay. Is this not complete bulldung? What would you do if your employeer did this to you. And there was an ad in the paper for electricians?

You haven't told us if this is a habitual kinda thing that has been ongoing?

This happened on Monday, did you see comp in fridays check or whatever withoholding time is?
 
Our OT is quite often last second, as for work last week we had almost no work lined up, ended keeping everyone busy with a last minute EM call.

I wasn't talking about your line of work or even legitimate short notice emergent situations. $hit happens and then you do what is needed to deal with it.

I was referring to plain needing more man hours than has been scheduled (for whatever reason) to complete whatever the job is. OT is almost always wanted by the guys on site and the need for it is almost always obvious.
 

charlietuna

Senior Member
I was always payed two hours showup if there was a reason we couldn't work,rain,strike,etc.. Then everything in two hour incurments-4 hrs,6hrs,8 hrs..
And i did the same when i went in business. It is my responsibility to notify my men early enough if there was a reason they couldn't work. But if your working a high rise and there comes a hard early morning rain that makes it unreasonable to work--you have to pay a guy for driving there and being ready to work!
 
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