Wet bar stub out

[growler]

Here is the situation. Doing electrical finish in residential basement. At the last minute the homeowner had the plumber stub out for a possible future wet bar on the wall adjoining the bath room (electrical had already passed rough inspection). There were not any counter receptacles needed as the present owner doesn't plan to even install a wet bar. The inspector says that the wall receptacles with 6 ft of the stub out need to be GFCI protected. I try to explain that's within 6 ft of a sink and there may never be a sink.

Maybe he is right about the stub out, I really wasn't even thinking about it or I would have gotten a combination arc fault .

He even said that where the wall receptacle exist now they may install a refrigerator and a GFCI receptacle would not be readily accessable.

By the way I changed it out to combination arc fault to keep the inspector happy. But is a stub out the same as a sink?

 

[rcarroll]

But is a stub out the same as a sink?

No. You need a new inspector.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I agree the inspector is inspecting beyond his authority

 

[jcleavit]

All an inspector can inspect is what is in front of him. Not what may or may not happen in the future.

 

[growler]

No. You need a new inspector.

I agree the inspector is inspecting beyond his authority

All an inspector can inspect is what is in front of him. Not what may or may not happen in the future.

Thanks fellows. I did whatever the inspector wanted at a cost of about $80 total in materials and added on to the bill for the homeowner. The inspector gave me a green sticker so I didn't have to call for re-inspection. Between the inspector and the homeowner I was just glad to get away from that little job.

I guess I could have fought the system and won but it just didn't seem worth it.

When I have to deal with 2 or 3 crazy people in a morning I always wonder if the them or me that's going over the edge.

 

[kwired]

Though it may be ok to do what inspector requests just to get past this one project, if you are going to run into same inspector often down the road, I would still think it is worth while to try to set them straight on what it should have been, and also to let them know that they better learn the code because you are not going to let them get away with things like that. Letting them have their way on something that is fairly obviously wrong is just enabling to continue to do the wrong thing and will bite you again if you regularly run into same inspector.

 

[peter d]

I can't resist saying it again. This is why I avoid permits whenever possible. :thumbsup:

 

[growler]

Though it may be ok to do what inspector requests just to get past this one project, if you are going to run into same inspector often down the road, I would still think it is worth while to try to set them straight on what it should have been, and also to let them know that they better learn the code because you are not going to let them get away with things like that. Letting them have their way on something that is fairly obviously wrong is just enabling to continue to do the wrong thing and will bite you again if you regularly run into same inspector.

You don't know how much I hate to whimp out on isssues like this but I do a lot of work in that jurisdiction. I know many of the inspectors and really get along well with them. This was a new guy that I had never met but he was not a young guy so I wasn't really sure what I was dealing with. I looked up what information about him that I could and found out he has had an EC license since 1983 but that his license was obtained by conversion and not testing. He seemed to have a good personality and not a bully but was just not knowledgeable or maybe he picked up bad habits inpsecting in another jurisdiction.

The next thing that I will do is when I get an inspection from one of the inspectors that I know in that jurisdiction I will ask as few questions casually to find out if there have been complaints. He may even be a temp inspector or something. They may have even started to farm out some inspections that I'm not aware of. Another jurisdiction did that and I was really surprised by the inspector they sent out ( didn't know anything but didn't work for the that city but a private company).

 

[growler]

I can't resist saying it again. This is why I avoid permits whenever possible. :thumbsup:

I don't really have much of a complaint because I did get red taged or fail the inspection. Didn't really lose any money or time because I was able to charge the owner/Contractor.

The home owner/contractor decided that he wanted a permit. He was the one that had the plumber stub out for a wet bar at the last minute. He a foreigner and this crap is part of the American experience. Welcome to Atlanta, now raise your hands, turn around, put your hands on the vehicle and spread'm.