The company I work for does a lot of remodel work and we run into a lot of old work that doesn’t meet today’s code. When does it cross the line of needed to be repaired? I have heard if we touch it. For example we are replacing lights on an apartment complex without an EGC but we aren’t touching the wiring beyond tying it back in.
What are we responsible for on remodels
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romex jockey
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maintenance is done to 'existing ungrounded' K&T, ragwire, BX wiring all day long in this trade.
the domiones such as branch circuit(s) to OCPD, to even service requirements ,along with even life safety updated can follow your query
BUT, we are not a philathropy, the customer has to 'buy' it, and if we can't 'sell' it, the local AHJ needs to step in to do so.
So, if you'd like some stories about droppin' a dime on one's customers, and just how effective the system we exist in really is, we'll need a bigger forum
~RJ~
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In NC you are responsible for anything you touch however if there is a violation found when a wall is opened then that would need repair. You need to talk to you authority having jurisdiction as the nec does not get into that
growler
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Normally replacing light fixtures wouldn't even be considered remodeling. If there is a permit needed to do the work it would be to "repair or replace existing fixtures".
As Dennis mentioned it's not always that simple. If a permit were pulled for a major remodeling project there could be lots of things that would have to be brought up to code. Remodeling is often considered the same as new construction.
LarryFine
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Usually, a "violation" in this sense means something that was done out of compliance with the rules that were in effect at the time the work was done, not now.
Here in VA, an entire structure must be brought to current code only if greater than 50% of it by floor area is being renovated, typically meaning walls opened.
I guess what concerns me is leaving something that I know is potentially unsafe or a liability for the company I work for. Also I plan on eventually working for myself so I want to learn these type of things the easy way rather than the hard way.
the reality is inspectors do not catch everything so work can sometimes need to be redone after passing inspection, so what is the procedure if you open something up that needs to be redone but isn’t defined in the scope of the contract or is there something that is put into a contract that covers these types of situations
the reality is inspectors do not catch everything so work can sometimes need to be redone after passing inspection, so what is the procedure if you open something up that needs to be redone but isn’t defined in the scope of the contract or is there something that is put into a contract that covers these types of situations
Coppersmith
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I'm guessing one of the things done during the bidding phase is attempting to adjust the scope of work to no more than 49% of the floor area.
romex jockey
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Maintenance ,in many localities, does not require anything more than the ability to simutaneously walk & chew gum
which is why most of us collect old code books
easy , document everything....
acts of god/ahj is a standard
and one can alert one's ahj
what becomes really interesting is when multiple ahj's look for validation from each other
keep in mind 'ahj' is a broad decript, for ex., inclusive of fire chief, insurance investigator , etc...
~RJ~
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