what can i do if my first boss wont send me back my work certification form

[tonyou812]

What can i do if my first boss wont send me back my work certification form? i sent it to him about 2 months ago and left him several messages, but to no avail. I live in New Jersey and hope to take my test in July. What can i do?

 

[celtic]

What can i do if my first boss wont send me back my work certification form? i sent it to him about 2 months ago and left him several messages, but to no avail. I live in New Jersey and hope to take my test in July. What can i do?

Nothing.

I went through the same thing with a former boss. He simply refused (by omission) to sign off on my work with him - yes, there was bad blood.

Hopefully, you can do what I did - submit your W-2's ....that's if you saved them?
Did you?

 

[Smart $]

Hopefully, you can do what I did - submit your W-2's ....that's if you saved them?
Did you?

If not, I have heard of people obtaining copies of their W-2's from the IRS. I've never had to try that option, so I'm not 100% sure of it... but it can't hurt to ask!

 

[celtic]

If not, I have heard of people obtaining copies of their W-2's from the IRS. I've never had to try that option, so I'm not 100% sure of it... but it can't hurt to ask!

Doesn't hurt to ask.

You may even have copies "on file" with your accountant ~ if you use one.

 

[peter]

The lesson is: Always Save Your Pay Stubs.
For about $25, the Social Sceurity Administration will send you a printout of all of your wages. The cost is based on how many years you want to go back.
But pay check stubs should be sufficient.
~Peter

 

[tonyou812]

yea i saved almost all of them. I only worked for him for a year. He was the most angry person Ive ever worked for. So i guess ill call the state to see what the procedure is called for with pay stubs? Thanx for your help

 

[iwire]

With all the rules you have in NJ there is no rule that forces this person to provide the info?

Here in MA refusing to provide the work history of an apprentice working under you puts your own license at risk of suspension or termination.

 

[celtic]

So i guess ill call the state to see what the procedure is called for with pay stubs?

(973) 504-6410 is the number over in Newark for BoEoEC ~ http://www.nj.gov/lps/ca/nonmedical/electrical.htm

One more item might be neccessary...do they still make you write your work experience?
When I first submitted my application, they returned it wanting "more detail" on my work experience.
If they still have this requirement, please take my advice - make it LONG and DESCRIPTIVE.
I don't think you want another detour on this trip.

Thanx for your help

Good luck.

 

[tonyou812]

Thank you Celtic. That's a big help. I owe you a guinness.

 

[celtic]

Thank you Celtic. That's a big help. I owe you a guinness.

That'd be great!

Someday we'll toss back a few

 

[Dave85]

What can i do if my first boss wont send me back my work certification form? i sent it to him about 2 months ago and left him several messages, but to no avail. I live in New Jersey and hope to take my test in July. What can i do?

nothing you can do, sorry

I went though it once already and was not happy about it..one year full time wasted

I believe most wont give the paperwork because they don't want more electricians in the area taking their work...

 

[celtic]

With all the rules you have in NJ there is no rule that forces this person to provide the info?

Here in MA refusing to provide the work history of an apprentice working under you puts your own license at risk of suspension or termination.

I have never seen a requirement for making a former employer sign off.
I have heard many a horror story about a former employer refusing to sign off.

I can only assume (yea, I know) that once the applicant discovers W-2's are acceptable to the Board, they just want to get the process over with. After having your nerves rattled while taking the 8-hour test, then waiting the 6-8weeks (I forget the time) for the results most people are only concerned with 2 things:
- Did I pass?
- When can I can retake?

As time goes by, the applicant recalls that they were somehow hindered by the former employers refusal to sign....still PO'ed at that former employer, but happy they never have to ask that SOB for a thing again...and life goes on.

 

[JohnJ0906]

i was lucky, in a way. By the time I wanted to take my test, I had been at my present employer 7 years, and he was also helpful in getting me steered in the right direction to regester, etc. ALL my previous employers (3) had gone out of business, and I'm sure glad I didn't have to try to track them down.

 

[iwire]

I have never seen a requirement for making a former employer sign off.
I have heard many a horror story about a former employer refusing to sign off.
.

Well that stinks.

We have this

237 CMR 18.013) All persons, firms, and corporations engaging in or working at the business of installing wires, conduits, apparatus, devices, fixtures, or other appliances for carrying electricity for light, heat, power, fire warning or security system purposes and employing learners and apprentices shall keep, or cause to be kept, accurate and detailed records of such employment for no less than seven years and shall permit the Board or its agents to inspect and copy such records upon request.

19.01: Basis for Disciplinary Action

1. Failure by any licensee to comply with the regulations of the Board or with any other federal or state laws and/or regulations shall be sufficient cause to initiate formal disciplinary action against such licensee.

 

[celtic]

Well that stinks.

Yes it does have a foul odor

We have this

...shall permit the Board or its agents to inspect and copy such records upon request.

...a real SOB could say the Board is not requesting the info, the applicant is.

 

[iwire]

...a real SOB could say the Board is not requesting the info, the applicant is.

I don't think that is going to help much.

 

[celtic]

I don't think that is going to help much.

Why not?

There is a process in place for such occurances.

19.01: Basis for Disciplinary Action

1. Failure by any licensee to comply with the regulations of the Board or with any other federal or state laws and/or regulations shall be sufficient cause to initiate formal disciplinary action against such licensee.

Initiate.
Does that mean the Board has already determined the licensee is quilty?

 

[bphgravity]

Here in the state of Florida, ANY licensed contractor, engineer, or building code administrator can attest to and verify work experience. In the event your previous employer is not available or does not provide the documentation, perhaps a local building official, general contractor, or engineering firm familar with your work and experience will.

 

[iwire]

You really lost me.

If an apprentice tries to get the info from their past employers and is refused that apprentice can lodge a complaint to the board and board will request the info from the license holder.

The license holder would have a chance to explain in a hearing why they did not provide the info but if they do not comply with the board the board can and does take action.

 

[peteo]

In California, the state was basically defunded by Prop 13, the Jarvis Bill. As well, we have had successive waves of refugee immigrants, unable to provide any substantial work records. In 1983, laws were changed to permit self-certification. Anyone familiar with your work can fill out the certificate of experience. Last year, the licensing board was permitted to view state income tax records - don't know whether this is actually being done.