What is the voltage of this?

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cdynasty001

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Say you have to calculate the voltage of this. There is an equal amount of voltage flowing through each copper spike. Say there are 20 copper spikes. What would the voltage be? Would you add the total voltage through all 20 of them, or just one of them? Say the voltage is 1V in each spike. What is the voltage?
 

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Sahib

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Say you have to calculate the voltage of this. There is an equal amount of voltage flowing through each copper spike. Say there are 20 copper spikes. What would the voltage be? Would you add the total voltage through all 20 of them, or just one of them? Say the voltage is 1V in each spike. What is the voltage?
Well, how the spikes are connected, series or parallel?
 

ggunn

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Say you have to calculate the voltage of this. There is an equal amount of voltage flowing through each copper spike. Say there are 20 copper spikes. What would the voltage be? Would you add the total voltage through all 20 of them, or just one of them? Say the voltage is 1V in each spike. What is the voltage?
Forty two.
 

kwired

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The same source? What is the reference point? Are these spikes stuck in an orange? An insulator? Nothing or someones forehead?
Assuming each spike (for whatever that means) is a source of 1 volt as mentioned we need to know if they are connected in series or parallel, or combinations of series and parallel.

If all are in a series then you have a net 20 volts output, if all are in parallel you still have 1 volt output, but 20 times current as just one spike can produce (assuming all are same capacity).


A lot of assuming until there is more details presented though.
 

gar

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He is a student in college. I doubt that he is an EE student.


cdynasty001:

If the information that you provided is the only information that you were given, then you have to make assumptions to clarify the problem. Your assumptions may be wrong. This is the usually case with many new problems. You ask questions of the originator of the problem, or you experiment with the device or whatever, and use new information, or experimental data to modify your assumptions. Then proceed to the next step, and this process may need to be repeated many times.

Note that many of the previous responses have posed some assumptions or questions for you to answer.

If this is simply a class problem and there is no other information, then state your assumptions, and show how you would go from those assumptions to an answer that you produce from the assumptions.

I had a final exam once where the regular teacher was not present, and the head of the department, William G. Dow, was the substitute. There was one question that appeared to have a mistake in the question. The question lacked consistency. All our exams were on the honor system, most were open book, and typically the teacher was not in the room, but rather in their office. I went to Dow's office and indicated the problem with the question. His response was --- describe how I thought the question should have been written and answer based on my assumptions. You would have to know Dow to know his teaching techniques, But his response made perfect sense.

In a teaching environment Dow tried to make his students think, rather than just answer a question. In a non-teaching environment at the Electronics Defense Group, a part of the Electrical Engineering Department, where I worked while I was a student, Dow would ask questions in program review meetings of the presenter that others might want to, but were afraid to, to try to get the presenter to clarify what they had said. He was still teaching.

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kwired

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He is a student in college. I doubt that he is an EE student.


cdynasty001:

If the information that you provided is the only information that you were given, then you have to make assumptions to clarify the problem. Your assumptions may be wrong. This is the usually case with many new problems. You ask questions of the originator of the problem, or you experiment with the device or whatever, and use new information, or experimental data to modify your assumptions. Then proceed to the next step, and this process may need to be repeated many times.

Note that many of the previous responses have posed some assumptions or questions for you to answer.

If this is simply a class problem and there is no other information, then state your assumptions, and show how you would go from those assumptions to an answer that you produce from the assumptions.

I had a final exam once where the regular teacher was not present, and the head of the department, William G. Dow, was the substitute. There was one question that appeared to have a mistake in the question. The question lacked consistency. All our exams were on the honor system, most were open book, and typically the teacher was not in the room, but rather in their office. I went to Dow's office and indicated the problem with the question. His response was --- describe how I thought the question should have been written and answer based on my assumptions. You would have to know Dow to know his teaching techniques, But his response made perfect sense.

In a teaching environment Dow tried to make his students think, rather than just answer a question. In a non-teaching environment at the Electronics Defense Group, a part of the Electrical Engineering Department, where I worked while I was a student, Dow would ask questions in program review meetings of the presenter that others might want to, but were afraid to, to try to get the presenter to clarify what they had said. He was still teaching.

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If this is simply a class problem recent areas of study may be clues of what to assume, here we have no idea what to assume.
 

junkhound

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Forty two.

I agree, must be correct. I used 20 spikes plus 1 V = 21. The answer is too obvious so multiply by two, gives you 42.

My head has a dent in it from thinking this thru, and yes, my name is Arthur .:lol:
 

junkhound

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Conversely, let us give the OP the benefit of assuming it is a puzzle ?

The dots (spikes) are 2 different sizes and colors (faint) and are in binary or hexadecimal ?

Or, noticed in one looks at the picture sideways from 270 deg CW and edge on with an astigmatism effect, it appears to be braille for 120?

Or, an even further fetch, it is an NEC quiz question and was prepared by blasting a paper with with #4 buckshot,
A 12 gauge shotgun #4 load is 20 pellets, so going by 12 AWG as a 'gauge', per NEC 12 gauge carries 20 Amps ?

Or, looking at any pattern from across the room, one can see 120 written as the 3 left lines, a circle for zero in the oval at the right, and a rough 2 in the center for 120V ?
 
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Meterman Eng

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Compared to what?

Compared to what?

As everone is asking, what is the reference point, source, etc... Voltage is taken between two points (that is part of the definition of voltage). So, are you asking for the voltage between conducters or from any given conductor to ground (assuming Earth)? How do you get 42V?
 

junkhound

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further clarification for those confused by 42:

The whole 'think' is spoof, as is probably this whole thread.
Hopefully OP will come back later with the 'real' answer to her having posed her (his?) target practice bull, such as 0.5 MOA. Refer to NRA for MOA definition, etc. First impression of the first post was some feminist trying to show how dumb or literal us guys are?
See 310.42.3a, etc. (I have a bridge for sale if you go try to look that up<G>)

copied from wiki:

The number 42 is, in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams, the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything", calculated by an enormous supercomputer named Deep Thought
over a period of 7.5 million years. Unfortunately, no one knows what
the question is. Thus, to calculate the Ultimate Question, a special
computer the size of a small planet was built from organic components
and named "Earth". The Ultimate Question "What do you get when you
multiply six by nine?" was found by Arthur Dent and Ford Prefect in the
second book of the series, "The restaurant at the end of the Universe"
 

cdynasty001

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The same source? What is the reference point? Are these spikes stuck in an orange? An insulator? Nothing or someones forehead?

It's from the same source. It's a box with a battery in it. And you're supposed to plug something with an equal amount of holes into the spikes. So what would the voltage be? How would you determine it?
 
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