JohnJ0906
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I like that one!
what should I know by years
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I like that one!
DanZ
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I just have to throw this out there. Please don't take this as a personal attack of any kind, but I have run into a few people that didn't know this.
-Know how to read blueprints. If you need more than the E sheets, ask!
-Know when to call the Engineer / Architect / General Contractor, a five minute phone call can save 5 hours of headaches later.
-Just in general for anything you do that you want to truly understand, it's not enough to know to do something, but knowing why you do something is priceless.
-When in doubt, ask!
-Know where your copy of the NEC is.
-Know how to read blueprints. If you need more than the E sheets, ask!
-Know when to call the Engineer / Architect / General Contractor, a five minute phone call can save 5 hours of headaches later.
-Just in general for anything you do that you want to truly understand, it's not enough to know to do something, but knowing why you do something is priceless.
-When in doubt, ask!
-Know where your copy of the NEC is.
IMPO, there's little correlation between how long a person has been in the trade and what they are capable of doing.
I've seen 2nd-year apprentices that can run circles (constructed of 3" GRC with concentric bends, no less!) around 20-year mechanics.
BTW, Tim, welcome to the forum!
I've seen 2nd-year apprentices that can run circles (constructed of 3" GRC with concentric bends, no less!) around 20-year mechanics.
BTW, Tim, welcome to the forum!
thanks for the welcome guys, little late getting back to this... busy week. The reason I was asking was because recently I have been being put into more of a lead man type role. Also I decided to ask the original question after being allowed to take the prints home to look through for a few hours :smile: I just basically never want to be put into the position of 'he's been in the trade this long he should know that already...' and thus look like an idiot.. as is I always have questions. For the record I do commercial and light industrial, I have never been on a resi site, at least while working in this trade. The 1st 3 months of my apprenticeship were spent with a shovel working under a sadistic foreman who was later fired for basically not knowing how to do just about anything. So sometimes I get concerned that I'm not learning the right type of stuff, or the person teaching me might be doing it wrong.
brantmacga
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brian john said:
I was gonna say by 6mo. you should know all of that.
brian john said:
That sounds about right. As an EC I would do a quick walk through before the start, and one final walk through, but would expect the work to be 99.9% correct. I would allow a mistake or two at only a year.
Minuteman
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Tim, I would assume that you are in an approved apprenticeship course, like the union or some other BAT program.
That being said, are you above average in your classes, as far as understanding the material they provide you? Secondly, do you have a pretty good handle on the tasks that you repeatitively preform on the job? Are you acquiring a skill with pipe bending, conduit layout, device installation, and whatever else they give you to do? Can you apply the code that you have learned to what you are doing, so that, as far as what they have you do daily- you know WHY it is done this way? Can you synthesize what you know about code, so that when you see a new situation, you have some sort of opinion on what the code may say about it?
I guess, what I am trying to say is: Are the things that you are doing/learning sinking in? If so, I would say that you are right were you should be.
That being said, are you above average in your classes, as far as understanding the material they provide you? Secondly, do you have a pretty good handle on the tasks that you repeatitively preform on the job? Are you acquiring a skill with pipe bending, conduit layout, device installation, and whatever else they give you to do? Can you apply the code that you have learned to what you are doing, so that, as far as what they have you do daily- you know WHY it is done this way? Can you synthesize what you know about code, so that when you see a new situation, you have some sort of opinion on what the code may say about it?
I guess, what I am trying to say is: Are the things that you are doing/learning sinking in? If so, I would say that you are right were you should be.
iaov
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I like that too and I believe it is true of the Masters license too. The more time you spend in this field the more you learn how much there is left to learn.JohnJ0906 said:
JohnJ0906
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iaov said:
Absolutely.
HighWirey
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Tim,
Good luck on your carrer.
I cannot advise what you should know, however learn everything that you can while you are young, before those temporal lobes in your brain crust over.
Best Wishes Everyone
Good luck on your carrer.
I cannot advise what you should know, however learn everything that you can while you are young, before those temporal lobes in your brain crust over.
Best Wishes Everyone
JacksonburgFarmer
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What not to learn.....
What not to learn.....
You didnt say if you were union or non union. Dosent really matter, but, if union, learn the 8 for 8 law, 8 hr pay, 8 hr work. Learn the right way to do work, learn how to take care of tools, LEARN TO HAVE PRIDE IN YOUR WORK! If it isnt right, dont do it. I went through union apprenticeship, and lost a job over that (if not right, dont do it) Have convictions and standards. Youll be fine. GOOD LUCK!!!:grin:
What not to learn.....
You didnt say if you were union or non union. Dosent really matter, but, if union, learn the 8 for 8 law, 8 hr pay, 8 hr work. Learn the right way to do work, learn how to take care of tools, LEARN TO HAVE PRIDE IN YOUR WORK! If it isnt right, dont do it. I went through union apprenticeship, and lost a job over that (if not right, dont do it) Have convictions and standards. Youll be fine. GOOD LUCK!!!:grin:
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