What would you charge?

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To change out an indoor 100 amp main breaker panel.
Existing panel is 100 amp Zinsco, properly grounded. Bus bar is burned & ruined.
Existing circuits are:
two 40 amp 2 pole
two 30 amp 2 ploe
eight 20 amp single pole
five 15amp single pole
Just a simple panel change out requested by the buyer of a SF residence.
I'm going with a GE panel from HDepot
 
Recessed is more...$1000 - $1200, depending on repair detail.
Surface is less...$600 - $800
 
Celtic,

Panel only here means. upgrade the grounding, once we pull the meter, ground rods, bond water heater, and water meter $900, or more if ground rods are a hard drive, or we have to trench them, plus permit fee, time is money.
 
Unfinished down here does means no sheetrock, just 2x4 studs.
But the existing panel is installed between the studs.
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Ground rod was installed last week & thats when I found the burned buss while changing out a 70amp breaker on #8 wire feeding A/C condensor.
 
Unfinished garage to me means, sheetrocked and taped - gotta maintain that fireproofing rating - no paint.
If it's between exposed studs - that might as well be surface mounted (for this thread).

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77401 said:
FWIW
I did do the job today @ $1000 no permit.
Materials close to $150 2 hours on the job.

Now who is going to bad mouth being in tight with the realtors?

Nice job @$425hr :D I would have got them for $1300


@celtic if you need to raise your prices in NJ then i'd hate to see your labor rate. Im in NJ and the company im at is at $87hr and people pay it without blinking.
 
wow .that is a great rate. I wish I could charge that hear in Denver. I am lucky if I get $55.00 per hour.

it is a very tight market here. the price you charged is about average hear in Denver.

I did a outdoor 30 circuit panel replacement last week. service was ok just replaced an FPE panel for $900.00 new rod and water pipe ground it took me 8 hour inlcuding travel. materials were $60.00 for the permit. $200.00 materials,had to splice all branch circuits due to new arrangement of bus & neutral bar in addtion had to trace out circuits to mark panel as this was not done on 30 year old panel

to much competion in denver along with the guys that like to do work for just wages so it is hard to compete when all customers want is low ball price.
 
Riograndeelectric said:
wow .that is a great rate. I wish I could charge that hear in Denver. I am lucky if I get $55.00 per hour.

it is a very tight market here. the price you charged is about average hear in Denver.

I did a outdoor 30 circuit panel replacement last week. service was ok just replaced an FPE panel for $900.00 new rod and water pipe ground it took me 8 hour inlcuding travel. materials were $60.00 for the permit. $200.00 materials,had to splice all branch circuits due to new arrangement of bus & neutral bar in addtion had to trace out circuits to mark panel as this was not done on 30 year old panel

to much competion in denver along with the guys that like to do work for just wages so it is hard to compete when all customers want is low ball price.
I so much don't want to hear this!
I want to sell out & relocate to Boulder but the last time I was there I was amazed at how low some of the quotes I was getting.
Y'all have so much green space I guess travel time does get to ya.
BTW I can label a breaker panel in 4 minutes. No one has ever verified its correct!
 
S_E_DInc. said:
@celtic if you need to raise your prices in NJ then i'd hate to see your labor rate. Im in NJ and the company im at is at $87hr and people pay it without blinking.
I'm @ $75/man hour.

EDIT:
What MY rate is really has no bearing on what YOUR rate is.
I may have lower overhead than you, a more efficient set-up, closer/long term customer base, etc.
 
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celtic said:
I'm @ $75/man hour.

EDIT:
What MY rate is really has no bearing on what YOUR rate is.
I may have lower overhead than you, a more efficient set-up, closer/long term customer base, etc.

Do you charge $37.50 if you work an apprentice?
 
celtic said:
What MY rate is really has no bearing on what YOUR rate is.
I may have lower overhead than you, a more efficient set-up, closer/long term customer base, etc.

Not really true. My overhead & efficiency has nothing to do with what I charge, only with what I can keep.
What I charge has to do with my area & what the other low life EC's are getting. Its all about staying competitive. I wish I could get my competition to raise their rates so I can.

I cannot hire an office staff of 10, put my Porsche on as a company car, & let my company pay for my winter home in Park City. and then pass that cost on to my customers & stay in business.
Instead what I have to do is bust my rear, by working late, & on saturdays, and stay out of the strip clubs in order to pay for my toys.
 
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