what would you do

[billdozier]

Hey guys just want to get your opinion on how you guys handle a failed inspection. Obvious work that should have been done and was overlooked. Do you pay your employee to fix said problem or do you expect them to fix it on thier time? What about as an employee do you offer to fix it on your time or do you expect to be paid for your mistakes thanks

 

[Rewire]

Work that was just missed the employee fixes on my dime as I would have to had paid for it before inspection, work that has to be redone because it was wrong is on the employees dime as I paid for it to be done correct.

 

[BryanMD]

Hey guys just want to get your opinion on how you guys handle a failed inspection. Obvious work that should have been done and was overlooked. Do you pay your employee to fix said problem or do you expect them to fix it on thier time? What about as an employee do you offer to fix it on your time or do you expect to be paid for your mistakes thanks

If the employee is working, callback or not, the employee is getting paid.
The second gets into context and personal responsibility issues but should not be expected... by *either* party.

 

[mkgrady]

Hey guys just want to get your opinion on how you guys handle a failed inspection. Obvious work that should have been done and was overlooked. Do you pay your employee to fix said problem or do you expect them to fix it on thier time? What about as an employee do you offer to fix it on your time or do you expect to be paid for your mistakes thanks

I doubt any state law would allow you to require an employee to make corrections on his own time.

 

[billdozier]

well im not the contracter im the bonehead that screwed up. I forgot to strap overhead mast. Figured why should my boss pay me for a waterhead mistake. It will cost him reinspect fee gas and hassle. So I guess im looking at it from an ethics viewpoint not so much of a law

 

[resistance]

I doubt any state law would allow you to require an employee to make corrections on his own time.

Exactly! I don't even see a reason why someone would think differently. I say: try it, and see how long that employee will stay loyal. --Fire them after you had them working without pay, and see how quick you'll be sued!

 

[steelersman]

Work that was just missed the employee fixes on my dime as I would have to had paid for it before inspection, work that has to be redone because it was wrong is on the employees dime as I paid for it to be done correct.

maybe in the land of the ozarks that flies?

 

[Rewire]

It was in our contract that the employee corrected a mistake on thier time,the key was the word mistake a missed clamp was not a mistake the wrong size wire would be a mistake

 

[dbuckley]

Employees screwing up is just a cost of being in business.

Reward those employees who dont screw up over the long term.

 

[sparkyway]

Sometimes we just screw up. I'm a self-employed electrical contractor and the buck stops with me. I called for a final inspection knowing full well the HVAC guy needed to install his heat kit in his unit to complete the wiring. I gambled and lost (he just didn't show up to finish it)...stupid call on my part. My inspector was kind enough to drop back by the next day and reinspect without an additional fee (who I thanked very kindly!). As long as we try to take care of the company and make things right somehow, let's just call it life lessons learned.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

well im not the contracter im the bonehead that screwed up. I forgot to strap overhead mast. Figured why should my boss pay me for a waterhead mistake. It will cost him reinspect fee gas and hassle. So I guess im looking at it from an ethics viewpoint not so much of a law

Bill I think it is very noble of you to fix it on your time. If I were your boss I would thank you and say don't worry about it. Obviously if it were a common occurrence we would have to talk.

From the other end, I as an EC cannot see how it is legal to make an employee fix their mistakes. What do they get when the job is done correctly? Mistakes happen-- such is life.

 

[jmsbrush]

It was in our contract that the employee corrected a mistake on thier time,the key was the word mistake a missed clamp was not a mistake the wrong size wire would be a mistake

Contract or not. In my state that would not fly. Its illegal!!

 

[iaov]

Mistakes certainly do happen. This is one of the reasons Wisconsin is going to require on-sight supervision by qualified people in the near future. I think if you have someone on a job sight whose primary duty is to see that things are done correctly the first time, the incidents of failed inspections should be reduced.I'm a one man band these days and I know who pays if mistakes are made!!

 

[ceb58]

Bill I think it is very noble of you to fix it on your time. If I were your boss I would thank you and say don't worry about it. Obviously if it were a common occurrence we would have to talk.

From the other end, I as an EC cannot see how it is legal to make an employee fix their mistakes. What do they get when the job is done correctly? Mistakes happen-- such is life.

Here I go agreeing with Dennis, again. It's good that you feel that you should take care of the mistake on your own time and it will probably be one that you wont repeat. But what if you were up on the ladder and you fell and were seriously injured? You were on the job working to complete a project that your boss contracted. As an employer your boss knows that he will have to eat mistakes from time to time. Just man up and tell him you screwed up and it was a dumb mistake.

As an EC or any other employer you cannot work people with out pay. Can you say FEDERIAL LABOR BOARD boys and girls. For some of us from the south and old enough (name withheld) stores went through a law suit years ago just for that reason. Best I can remember the employees had so many things to get done in a shift if it all wasn't completed they had to stay off the clock and finish.

 

[greg y]

Just reading through this and was wondering on this if a person pulls in yellow wire for a 120/208 system for a neutral and he knew it was not right but did not want to get a white #12 who is responsible then for that, and should he be paid to correct that ?

 

[growler]

It was in our contract that the employee corrected a mistake on thier time,the key was the word mistake a missed clamp was not a mistake the wrong size wire would be a mistake

You might want to run that by your state labor board and your workman's comp. carrier.

Even Wall Mart can't make an employee mop up spilled milk on their own time. Employees legally have to be paid for hours on the job and that amount has to be properly insured by workman's comp. They did try having employees work off the books and that didn't work out.

If you want to make them eat crow then at least pay minimum wage while they correct mistakes.

This is just my opinion you could hire Wal Marts lawyers and try to find some way around it.

 

[SEO]

No he should be fired.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Here I go agreeing with Dennis, again.

That can only cause you no good.

 

[SEO]

No he should be fired.

This is a reply to post 15.

 

[drew33]

If someone makes a mistake, big deal it happens. However it is leagal in some states to fine a employee. As in my union contract if you are disciplined you can be fined a days wages, or even up to five days just for absenteism. give that a thought on what that will do for your employees morale.