Whats required in YOUR TOWN to become a EC?

[ivsenroute]

But when you pay $150.00 to $200.00 for a permit and the inspection takes 10 to 15 min. enough is enough.

That inspection costs travel time, training, certification, insurance and paperwork before and after the inspection, filing, etc.

You along with your competitors just need to charge that out to the customer or make them responsible for paying it like I do so it is not part of my bid depending on where I am working.

You need to charge the right rate for your business just like the municipal or third party agencies do. Do I smell hypocrisy? Yes, that is how you spell hypocrisy.:smile:

 

[satcom]

That inspection costs travel time, training, certification, insurance and paperwork before and after the inspection, filing, etc.

You along with your competitors just need to charge that out to the customer or make them responsible for paying it like I do so it is not part of my bid depending on where I am working.

You need to charge the right rate for your business just like the municipal or third party agencies do. Do I smell hypocrisy? Yes, that is how you spell hypocrisy.:smile:

Exactly, I don't care what the permit costs, or how long the inspection takes, the customer pays the required by law, inspection fees. for the past 35 years, we never included the inspection fees, with the quotes, or job costs, customer pays fees, under seperate invoice.

 

[ivsenroute]

Ahhhh, the natural drifting of the thread

 

[Greg Swartz]

That inspection costs travel time, training, certification, insurance and paperwork before and after the inspection, filing, etc.

You along with your competitors just need to charge that out to the customer or make them responsible for paying it like I do so it is not part of my bid depending on where I am working.

You need to charge the right rate for your business just like the municipal or third party agencies do. Do I smell hypocrisy? Yes, that is how you spell hypocrisy.:smile:

Ok... call me a hypocrite... but when your inspector has 20-30 inspections a day, and 2 inspections does it. One rough, one final, $150 is a lot...
(Thats $75 per inspection at 20 a day... Who's making money? The Regional Building Department here...) especially if you fail, you get trip feed... another $65... or the job never gets passed... no one finals... the whole city is up in arms... it's raining cats and dogs...
And they can fail you for whatever they want... like not having ground clips in round plastic boxes!!!!

 

[Greg Swartz]

Oh, and by the way: In Colorado

Resedential Wireman: 2 years - 4000 documented hours as a REGISTERED apprentice. Anything undocumented does not count.
This allows you to take a 4 hour 90 question test that 80% fail the first time around (???) If you pass, this allows you to supervise residential jobs only, and make up to $25 / hr. Most get around $21

Journeyman Wireman: 4 years - 8000 documented hours as a REGISTERED apprentice. Must have at least 4000 hours as commercial experience.
This allows you to take a 4 hour 90 question test that over 1/2 fail the first time around. (Still don't know why...) Once you pass that, this allows you to work unsupervised on any jobsite. Wages: $21-$25 / hr. Good ones make $28 / hr.

Master Electrician: 1 year of documented supervision after you have completed your Journeyman's license. Again... 4 hour 90 question test. Very similar to Journeyman's... more calculations... Wages... about the same as J-man.

Electrical Contractor: Master's license + Insurance + Business License. This allows you to talk to the local RBDs.

Register in most RBDs cost $0 (Colorado Springs) to $200 (Denver). By the way, Denver has 4 RBDs...
Side note: Arapahoe Road used to be dividing line: If you had 2 jobs, one on each side, you would need 2 inspectors, and 2 RBD registrations.

Now you can pull a permit...
Lets get to work while the day is young...

In Colorado Springs, there are ~500,000 people (surrounding areas too) and over 154 registered ECs. No telling how many non registered Journeymen doing side work.

 

[ivsenroute]

USMC 1991-2000 1142/8563

Shower shoe!!

 

[roger3829]

8000 hrs as a registered apprentice, plus 720 classroom hours before you can take journeymans test (80% failure rate)

4000 hrs as a journeyman, plus 90 more classroom hrs before you can take contractor test.

Buy a truck, put your name and license number on it and go to work......:smile:

 

[growler]

In the town where I have my home, absolutely nothing. A man can wake up tomorrow and declare himself an electrician.

You can do about the same thing here. You won't have a license and can't get permits but it doesn't slow that many people down.

If you want to get a license here then you are supposed to have 4 years of documented experience. I knew one guy that said he worked about 8 months and paid a master to sign his paperwork ( don't know if this is true).

Ok to get a journeyman license in georgia ..... What that?
To get an EC license .....................should be a minimum of 4 years but we all know how well the honor system works.

 

[Mule]

Ok... call me a hypocrite... but when your inspector has 20-30 inspections a day, and 2 inspections does it. One rough, one final, $150 is a lot...
(Thats $75 per inspection at 20 a day... Who's making money? The Regional Building Department here...) especially if you fail, you get trip feed... another $65... or the job never gets passed... no one finals... the whole city is up in arms... it's raining cats and dogs...
And they can fail you for whatever they want... like not having ground clips in round plastic boxes!!!!

Our permit fee for small jobs is $20......new construction is by the foot, and I dont have a clue what that is....