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I can promise you most women will not go for being able to see that electric panel through the glass door on the cabinet front. So the Thread title "what's wrong..." depends on whose perspective you are asking about:happyyes:
 
kwired said:
I can promise you most women will not go for being able to see that electric panel through the glass door on the cabinet front. So the Thread title "what's wrong..." depends on whose perspective you are asking about:happyyes:
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Put a removable piece of the back of the cabinet in front of the junction box. Problem solved.
 
petersonra said:
Put a removable piece of the back of the cabinet in front of the junction box. Problem solved.
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If it meets the criteria of those women that objected it in the first place.

In my house you don't even walk on a carpet that was just vacuumed or you mess up the marks the vacuum left on the surface and it doesn't look "just vacuumed" anymore:ashamed1:
 
kwired said:
If it meets the criteria of those women that objected it in the first place.

In my house you don't even walk on a carpet that was just vacuumed or you mess up the marks the vacuum left on the surface and it doesn't look "just vacuumed" anymore:ashamed1:
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You get yelled at for that too?

And I thought I was special.
 
ptonsparky said:
I figured out years ago that women all go to the same school to learn that stuff. A customer said his wife had been taking CEUs to keep current.

Freshly mopped floors are my pit of doom. I don't remeber if socks are allowed and not bare feet or visa versus. Afraid to ask.
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If you do tell them some other woman doesn't care about the carpet lines (or whatever the dispute is over) you get reminded of how wrong that person is, or worse yet how horrible of a person she may be.:happyyes: Even if it is her best friend, sister, mother...
 
kwired said:
If you do tell them some other woman doesn't care about the carpet lines (or whatever the dispute is over) you get reminded of how wrong that person is, or worse yet how horrible of a person she may be.:happyyes: Even if it is her best friend, sister, mother...
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Too true. Buy her a vacuum for her birthday, Christmas, or anniversary, and you will be sweeping the floor.. of your doghouse.
 
JFletcher said:
Too true. Buy her a vacuum for her birthday, Christmas, or anniversary, and you will be sweeping the floor.. of your doghouse.
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Actually I could possibly pull off the vacuum in some circumstances, a cooking appliance however could be trickier, she don't like cooking.
 
Sorry everyone for the sideways pic. It appears the homeowner of a house I am looking at purchasing did the work themselves and buried the load center in the wall. Am I wrong to assume working space is not sufficient for a residential system? Load center is not flush with back of cabinets, it is 3.5 inches behind.
 
You are correct to assume that the install is not compliant. Work space clearance 30" width, 36" in front floor to at lest 6'6"

(3) Height of Working Space. The work space shall be
clear and extend from the grade, floor, or platform to a
height of 2.0 m (61⁄2 ft) or the height of the equipment,
whichever is greater. Within the height requirements of this
section, other equipment that is associated with the electrical
installation and is located above or below the electrical
equipment shall be permitted to extend not more than 150 mm
(6 in.) beyond the front of the electrical equipment.
Exception No. 1: In existing dwelling units, service equipment
or panelboards that do not exceed 200 amperes shall
be permitted in spaces where the height of the working
space is less than 2.0 m (61⁄2 ft).
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If the entire cabinet were removable and not just the shelves there is a chance that the working space would be compliant. (If the panel front was flush with the wall rather than being recessed.)
But even then the countertop could be considered to impinge on the working space too.
 
Everything is built in and me being 5,11 I have to lean across the counter to access the panel. The home inspector had to kneel on the counter to remove the load center cover. Also here is the work inside...
 

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Obviously you have more violations. I would suggest hiring an electrician and have them go thrui with a fine tooth comb and see what you are up against. If that work was unpermitted-I am sure it was- you may have other issues to deal with.
 
Thanks for the input. We have an electrical contractor coming in and giving us options. On the phone they said if they work on it they would pull a city permit. He further stated the inspector would require proper clearance for the loadcenter which means removing cabinets and countertops or moving the loadcenter to another space, which of course means removing counters and cabinets, moving loadcenter and building it back.
 
Gregoryewy said:
Thanks for the input. We have an electrical contractor coming in and giving us options. On the phone they said if they work on it they would pull a city permit. He further stated the inspector would require proper clearance for the loadcenter which means removing cabinets and countertops or moving the loadcenter to another space, which of course means removing counters and cabinets, moving loadcenter and building it back.
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Good Luck and sorry you have to deal with that but it is worth doing right for the piece of mind
 
it looks to me like this is in a basement with the wall the cabinets are on built out from the structural wall.

i think you could just take out the panelboard and install a smaller junction box in its place and relocate it somewhere else. it should not be real hard to route wires over to the new location. I think this is a case where you might be able to "fish" NM behind the cabinet wall without the normally required supporting and securing.

Or it might just be simpler to move the cabinets out of the way.
 
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