When is a splice allowed?
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Welcome to the forum.
I agree with Bob.
Chris
I agree with Bob.
Chris
jumper
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Bob is correct, but I am in an onerous mood and do not feel like agreeing with him :grin:, so I will agree with the Headbanger(Chris) above.
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Who taught you this? Seems like a strange requirement.:-?
jumper
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You have more experience than me, so I have a question:
Is it ever speced, except for service entrance conductors, for no splices?
I have only had this requirement for communication circuits, ie: fiber, Cat 5, etc.
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jumper
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The same guy who told him that he needed an IG receptacle for a computer in a resi app. using romex and plastic boxes.
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Is it ever speced, except for service entrance conductors, for no splices?
Why would they spec this? Just curious
I have never wired a house, so things might be different, but I tend to teach what I consider best practice as well. But generally add that its not a code requirement, its my requirement(subject to practicality). Some guys tend to leave that last part out.
jumper
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POCO spec. Tree branch hit SE cable and meter base on a residence, my neighbor, and damaged both.
EC tried to splice 3 ft above meter base and install new meter base. I knew it would not fly with Dominion and it did not. IIRC inspector said it could be legal, but he knew Dominion would not hook up.
jumper
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If I work for you, I will do as you say; but splices are legal and if I can save money and do it in a safe and reasonable manner, I will splice.
resistance
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The OP will do well if he or she keeps doing what he/she is doing. Which is checking the facts.
Lunalilo,
you will get a ton of mis-information in the field, so keep doing what you are doing--checking the facts. To be honest, most the same people telling you this really believe it!!
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You are talking of the riser. You said service entrance conductors and I was wondering about that. Poco certainly has no say in that I wouldn't think.
BTW, I consider SE conductors to start where the riser wires or the service lateral wires end. Maybe I am wrong on that. Anyway I understand now.
As it should be, but I do not find it a strange for his teacher to require things that are in excess or beyond of NEC requirements. I do find it deceptive and pehaps unethical for an electrician to present,ether willfully or ignorantly; personal habits, practices, and hearsay as code requirements to those who would know no different.
It probably wouldn't bother me so much if there wasn't so much of it going around.
The OP will do well if he or she keeps doing what he/she is doing. Which is checking the facts.
Lunalilo,
you will get a ton of mis-information in the field, so keep doing what you are doing--checking the facts. To be honest, most the same people telling you this really believe it!!
Well said.
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In my experience you cannot believe everything you hear in the field. Sometimes independent fact checking is required before you file it away in your brain as a fact.
There are still many electricians who tell me that EGC's do not count for conduit fill. I hear this quite often when they want to pull 18-#10's in a 1" EMT.:roll:
There are still many electricians who tell me that EGC's do not count for conduit fill. I hear this quite often when they want to pull 18-#10's in a 1" EMT.:roll:
jumper
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I do not know where the demarcation point is. I have assumed(oh boy!) that it was at the meter, since our Poco gives us the meter base free.
We install the risers, but Poco and AHJ have to say okay for hook up.
Basically: I dunno.
readydave8
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No, the NEC allows as many splices as you want.[/QUOTE]
I just had an idea--why not splice scrap 8/3 for electric range in new house?
No, the NEC allows as many splices as you want.[/QUOTE]
I just had an idea--why not splice scrap 8/3 for electric range in new house?
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