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I thought that if you were going to identify a wire with phase tape that the wire had to be #8 or larger. Is there any thing in code that says you cant reidentify #10 or smaller with tape?
 
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with grounded and grounding conductors #6 and smaller, the entire length must be the required color. see 200.6(A) and 250.119
 
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310.12(C) (2005) requires conductors intended to be used as ungrounded conductors in a multiconductor cable to be distinguishable from the grounded and grounding conductors, for branch circuits use 210.5(C) and feeders 215.12.

210.5(C) allows ungrounded conductors to be identified by "color coding, marking tape, tagging, or other approved means".

So what I mean to say is that conductors other than the grounded and grounding conductor may be identified with tape for any size wire.

Chris
 
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Supply houses around here don't stock #8 and #6 white or green. Have to make a special order.
I see a lot of reidentification of #8 and #6 for neutrals and grounds.

[ February 07, 2006, 10:33 AM: Message edited by: tkb ]
 
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"210.5(C) allows ungrounded conductors to be identified by "color coding, marking tape, tagging, or other approved means".

So what I mean to say is that conductors other than the grounded and grounding conductor may be identified with tape for any size wire.

Chris "


210.5(C) is not conductor color identification, it is identification of conductors from different systems that are installed on the same premises.
 
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When remarking a wire for the ungrounded conductor I found an easier means than wrapping with tape.Take one of those huge broad permant markers that sell for about $3.00 and cut a vee in the wide part of the tip two swipes of the marker will remark up to a #4 alot easier than tape and the marker will last for 100`s of remarking tasks. :D
 
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pierre,

I understand that 210.5(C) talks about conductors of different systems, the reference I was using was 310.12(C) for a multiconductor cable which in turn refers you to 210.5(C) for the proper way to identify a branch circuit conductor.

I didn't really explain myself very well. :eek:

Chris
 
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Originally posted by tkb:
Supply houses around here don't stock #8 and #6 white or green. Have to make a special order.
I see a lot of reidentification of #8 and #6 for neutrals and grounds.
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Ditto ;)
 
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If the inspectors began rejecting jobs which didn't have continuous color identification on grounded and ungrounded conductors, I bet the supply houses would begin to stock #6 AND #8 in green and white. :)
 
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Originally posted by augie47:
If the inspectors began rejecting jobs which didn't have continuous color identification on grounded and ungrounded conductors, I bet the supply houses would begin to stock #6 AND #8 in green and white. :)
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Yup, they sure would.
 
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How is it that reidentifying a #4 conductor is not a hazard, but reidentifying a #6 is a hazard? The code is wrong here and should be changed but the CMP does not agree.
Don
 
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Hey George
Were you at my seminar this past weekend? That is exactly how I dressed, only my hair is speckled with a little brown in it... it looks really good with the gray. :D
 
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there is few compaines do make colored wire verison here is the link color wires part 1

but unforetally i have some diffuctally to get the other link to work with me to get this on Mike Holt Site

one is Southwire Co.

i did see the listing they do have #8 and #6 in various color you may have to ask the supply centre to stock those up and i belive it will meet the code nice way

Merci, Marc
 
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Pierre,
We all have parts of the code that we do not agree with. But we still comply with them.
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In many areas of the country, this code rule is not complied with. All wire larger than #10 is re-identified. I think this is one code rule that would be tossed out, by a court, if someone with deep pockets choose to challenge it.
Don
 
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