Wire Type inside Pole Barn

[1793]

Seems to be a lot of debate on what wire to use. I'll call my inspector tomorrow and see what his recommendation is.

Please report back with the answer(s) you get.

Thanks

 

[1793]

I started a thread about this subject a few moths ago.

It is very different in some ways, very much the same in others.

The buildings construction type...A detached garage is not a dwelling unit.

Do I like it... No. Have I approved the installation of such... Yes. My building inspector has interpreted(or twisted) our building code in a way to view a detached structure that is an accessory use to a residential dwelling unit just that, part of a dwelling unit.

However, The code does prohibit NM and UF in a detached garage/pole barn/pool shed/shed and all the other accessory structures that do not meet the definition of a dwelling unit.

With all that being said...Gotta do something about this in the 2011....

Jim
New Hampshire

Please excuse me while I eat crow.

 

[dnem]

I must have a bum copy of the code. It doesn't say that at all in mine.

It did not used to, if you look hard it does now.

I think it is a bad change.

HOLY SMOKES! How did I not see that? How did both '05 code change classes I attended fail to mention that? That's a biggie. I'm still floored by that revelation.

I?m looking at the side bars that specify the changed/added paragraphs and I don?t see a change for 2005 that would require a different wiring method for detached buildings for the latest code.

Are you looking at the change between 1999 and 2002 ?

If there?s a change between 2002 and 2005, I don?t see it nor has it been brought up in our IAEI continuing ed classes.

David

 

[th111447]

I will let you know Norb. I left a message this morning and the inspector has not returned the call. I'll try early tomorrow morning again.

 

[DaveTap]

The building is not being used for agriculture use. It is a residential pole barn.

I know its not NEC but I didn't think pole barns were allowed to be residential.

Is that a barn for poles to reside in? (No racial slurs intended)

 

[th111447]

Norb inspector never did call me back. I talked to two of my neighbors which have pole barns and they had inspections in the last couple of years. They ran regular NM-B cable and said it's fine. I will do the same and call them out for the inspection. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm going to shoot for Wed. for inspection. Hopefully they show up.

 

[th111447]

Norb-

I talked to Electrical Inspector today. He said as long as no animals are going to be in barn I could use NM-B wire which is my case. If I were to put animals in then I would need NMC. Well, thanks for all your help. I have my inspection tomorrow. We will see how it goes.

 

[1793]

Norb-

I talked to Electrical Inspector today. He said as long as no animals are going to be in barn I could use NM-B wire which is my case. If I were to put animals in then I would need NMC. Well, thanks for all your help. I have my inspection tomorrow. We will see how it goes.

Thanks for the report. I hope your Inspection goes well.

 

[Sonny Boy]

Pole Building?

Pole Building?

I wired a pole building, the poles where like 8" sq, used romex and passed the inspection. I routed and stapled the romex cables on the stringers a min of 8 feet to 10 feet off the concrete floor and routed the cables in the 1-1/2" space between the 8" sq poles and stringers.

 

[ptonsparky]

What are the types III, IV, and V construction referenced in 334.10? Might make this long ignored revelation more paletable.

 

[raider1]

What are the types III, IV, and V construction referenced in 334.10?

Take a look at Annex E of the NEC for an explanation of the different building types. The building types also come out of the building codes.

Chris