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russ

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This seems simple enough.

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But you would be surprised!

I've got a few more pictures coming.
 
Was there some sort of labor dispute happening at the time these fixtures were being wired? Otherwise, I'm at a loss for words.
 
I'm not even sure what that is.

If you promise to explain it S-L-O-W-L-Y, I promise I won't hurt your eyes by posting piccies of the wiring mess inside the console of my old Chevy.
 
I want to know where he planned to feed power in. :confused: :confused:

The red and blue wires are obviously fluorescent secondary wires. Well, obvious to me, anyway.
 
tallgirl said:
I'm not even sure what that is.

If you promise to explain it S-L-O-W-L-Y, I promise I won't hurt your eyes by posting piccies of the wiring mess inside the console of my old Chevy.
Is it a Corvair?

This appears to be a recessed fluorescent fixture. The red and blue wires are the ballast output wires, running to a 4-pin lampholder. The power should be fed into the red wire to the fuseholder, and the white, leaving the two reds and two blues alone. Someone decided to mix'n'match colors.

The only scarier one I saw was where someone cut into an old (i.e., no EGC) 3-conductor 3-way run to feed (via boxless splices) a 12-2 to a new washing machine. They had white for neutral, black for power, and the red must be intended for the bare copper wire.

With the 3-way switch one way, the machine worked. With it the other way, the machine cabinet was hot. Yikes!
 
Wow. That be somtin spesial......It is nice to see the handycapable on the job. Must be one of the 'smart' balast.
 
LarryFine said:
Is it a Corvair?

No, '79 Corvette. A previous owner rewired much of the interior. Badly.

This appears to be a recessed fluorescent fixture. The red and blue wires are the ballast output wires, running to a 4-pin lampholder. The power should be fed into the red wire to the fuseholder, and the white, leaving the two reds and two blues alone. Someone decided to mix'n'match colors.

Ah. Wow. Yeah, that's pretty scary. I especially like the bare wire sticking out of the yellow wirenut in the last two photos. That was an extra nice touch.

The only scarier one I saw was where someone cut into an old (i.e., no EGC) 3-conductor 3-way run to feed (via boxless splices) a 12-2 to a new washing machine. They had white for neutral, black for power, and the red must be intended for the bare copper wire.

With the 3-way switch one way, the machine worked. With it the other way, the machine cabinet was hot. Yikes!

Sounds like a design feature -- with the switch in one position, the machine was cleaning the clothes. With the switch in the other position, the machine was electrified to keep someone from stealing the clean clothes. I'd bet they even had a leaking washing machine hose to insure that a ready supply of water was puddled in front of the machine where the clothes thief was expected to stand.
 
Well it's obvious that the blue wire coming in and leaving needs to be with the rest of the blue wires in the fixture. And the red lead coming from the fuse should go to the other read wires. Then lastly we nut all the whites together. It's best just to get rid of the bare wires, since they pose imminent danger with their lack of insulation. The green wire is pretty and should be wrapped around the group of red wires to give a Christmas look and feel.

Where's the problem?
 
I realize the first is the example of the un-installed. Are the rest - several fixtures? Done by the same dope - a few different ways?

And did they work for any period of time?
 
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