Work getting tighter?????

AC\DC

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Florence,Oregon,Lane
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EC
Have you noticed less calls or people not bitting estimates.
I know the tariffs are playing an effect plus previous issue that were festering.
Just want to make sure it’s not just me.
I was 2 months out now only a month.
 
I'm 0 days out - yes it's tighter. Since the end of Feb I've had 20 leads come in. 2 jobs, both minimums. I know I lost 2 of those leads to people who underbid me by 30% (and these were tight 1-2hr jobs), 1 went DIY, 1 canceled the work (light renovation) because all bids were too high, the rest are ??? Still waiting on 2 bids, but things are grim recently. I usually have a 65% hit rate on bids. This is abysmal. Trying to shovel money at Google for ads, but little is actually spent - LSA account is dead in water despite $400/wk spend request; adwords is I get maybe $40/day vs $80/day spend request after upping CPC spend to $40 from $25 (was getting leads at $25 before); "electrician near me" is now $50 top of page (add 50% to that for actual - I won't bid it). I overbid a couple jobs for various reasons, but mostly I've been pretty spot-on I think, even lean.

Not sure what's happening. Lowering rates temporarily 10-15% to try to catch a few more jobs, but I'm not going down to handyman rates to compete with some of these guys. The one did 4 fixture additions and a switch for like $200 labor. Advertising on these jobs is easily $100-200... What did he win?

Ad costs shot up and competition pricing shot down. Is everyone giving away their time or something?

Should be full speed ahead season right now.
 
Can't speak for that side of things, but it'll be interesting to see if the pull-back we're seeing in new data center construction (especially hyperscale and AI-focused megasites) improves the lead time on stuff like generators. 2+ years for a CAT 3516B is just crazy...
 
I'm slammed right now. Really shouldn't be sitting here with the cat in my lap, I'm too far behind!
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lol, I got to love you guys.

I equate it to a drug addict we got to hit rock bottom and either we change or were doomed to die. Either way it's unavoidable, either do it now or keep kicking it down the road.
Good luck with that.

Rock bottom for our economy will lead to millions going into poverty
 
Yeah I mostly work alone. I had a helper for a few years, and it was so much work.
Same here. My wife seems to think I need help, my knees are getting bad and I can't do all the things I used to, or at least not as easily. She doesn't understand how much work it can be babysitting someone else. If you hire someone well qualified you better have plenty for them to do as well as pay them well enough they will stay or it will all end sooner instead of later and you are working alone again. If you already have a well trained person it probably is easier to bring on a third or even fourth helper and let the first one manage them with most the daily tasks while you can work on other aspects of running your business when needed. I haven't had that sort of experience since I was that "first person" for somebody else. And it is getting to be almost thirty years since then. I've learned how to do a lot of things by myself that I used to always have help for. Not that help wouldn't be nice for certain tasks at times.
 
We had hired on about 22 employees for two different projects that are now done, they were hoping to stay on but several jobs we were bidding no longer exist to bid they are all laid off now, one of the big design/build firms we regularly get RFQ and plans from has not had any new projects this month and the project manager is laid off.
 
I'm happy to work alone. My wife fills in as a helper for larger pulls (residential, so "large" is like #6s here) on occasion, give her fifty bucks and a kiss, works out well. I'd kill to have a second guy for all the smaller stuff, fishing between floors/walls is ungodly difficult solo, but I would never have enough work to give even a basic helper full time, and I don't yet feel like shelling out $700 on WC for it. Granted, I don't have work for myself, so getting ahead of the ball here quite a bit.

At least 1 job came through today, like 2.5hrs not much, but it's something I guess, pays for the ads at least.
 
We are in 2025. Things have been busier by the year for over 10 years. 2009 - 2013 were dead. If you started in business in the last decade you've never seen this. I'm not saying this to the OP necessarily, just in general. But to OP, it may be worth going safer and going back solo. A lot of additional expenses for just one employee.
 
I started a year before the crash. Went through it—- I hope I am wrong but it feels similar.
I got no dept and it’s cash or no buy even for inventory so I can survive/ worse I just lay him off. Nice guy and boy did a large garage with generator- planned week for me to rough and do it got done in 3 days nice!!! But burning work up now lol
 
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