I would do a material take off and guesstimate the time to do the work on one unit.
406.4(D)(4)
(4) Arc-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection. Where a
receptacle outlet is supplied by a branch circuit that requires
arc-fault circuit-interrupter protection as specified
elsewhere in this Code, a replacement receptacle at this
outlet shall be one of the following:
(1) A listed outlet branch-circuit type arc-fault circuitinterrupter
receptacle
(2) A receptacle protected by a listed outlet branch-circuit
type arc-fault circuit-interrupter type receptacle
(3) A receptacle protected by a listed combination type
arc-fault circuit-interrupter type circuit breaker
This requirement becomes effective January 1, 2014.
Depends on code cycle you are under and how the authority having jurisdiction sees it.
Here is the 2014
so basically YES!. if I replace a receptacle it needs to be protected by a breaker or a receptacle that is AFCI first in the circuit. right??
what about bath room and kitchen where gfci is requierd?
406.4(D)(3) Ground-Fault Circuit Interrupters. Ground-fault
circuit-interrupter protected receptacles shall be provided
where replacements are made at receptacle outlets that are
required to be so protected elsewhere in this Code.
Exception: Where replacement of the receptacle type is
impracticable, such as where the outlet box size will not
permit the installation of the GFCI receptacle, the receptacle
shall be permitted to be replaced with a new receptacle
of the existing type, where GFCI protection is provided
and the receptacle is marked “GFCI protected” and
“no equipment ground,” in accordance with 406.4(D)(2)
(a), (b), or (c).
That has been required for some time now to install GFCI protection where otherwise needed in current codes.what about bath room and kitchen where gfci is requierd?
That has been required for some time now to install GFCI protection where otherwise needed in current codes.
Sorry. i didnt post qiestion correctly. this is a existing dwelling and the custoner wants to install new receptacles and install gfci in kitchen and bath where gfci is required. A AFCI breaker is now required PLUS GFCI on small appliance? The bathroom has laundry room and she wants to replace receptacles in laundry and install GFCI. Basically if i replace any receptacle it needs to be AFCI brealer and GFCI where required just to replace receptacles in all room?? it seems excessive but what you gonna do!!
It is excessive AND I would bet most people don't do it unless they are getting an inspection.
Depends on code cycle you are under and how the authority having jurisdiction sees it.
Here is the 2014
Sorry. i didnt post qiestion correctly. this is a existing dwelling and the custoner wants to install new receptacles and install gfci in kitchen and bath where gfci is required. A AFCI breaker is now required PLUS GFCI on small appliance? The bathroom has laundry room and she wants to replace receptacles in laundry and install GFCI. Basically if i replace any receptacle it needs to be AFCI brealer and GFCI where required just to replace receptacles in all room?? it seems excessive but what you gonna do!!
It is excessive AND I would bet most people don't do it unless they are getting an inspection.
Agreed It sounds excessive. What I would do is install GFCI's kitchen & baths, forget AFCI
Dennis ... Best hurry and get the AFCI's deleted from the NEC .
More and more uninspected work is going to happen as a result of the AFCI's .
Don
Here you don't have to be an electrician nor get an inspection to change out receptacles.
Some hanymen don't even use T/R receptacles.
The only time that I can get a job changing out receptacles is on section eight housing where they require a licensed electrician.
All we can really tell you is what the NEC says, or what local codes are if someone happens to know them in the area in question.i dont want to keep beating a dead horse here! If I replace receptacles for any reason and anywhere AFCI is required I need to install the new AFCI with the required GFCI where required.? These apartments are under rehab. they want to replace receptacles and switches so basically I would need to install AFCI everywhere AFCI is needed? i plan on calling the city Monday and find out which NEC they are follosing.
There is another city doing the same but only following the 2008. The 2014 is driving me nuts.
All we can really tell you is what the NEC says, or what local codes are if someone happens to know them in the area in question.
Your decision to not install afci if otherwise required is not our decision to make, we can warn you of some scenarios that could bite you back though if you didn't do that.
If you are bidding the job and other bidders decide to not comply with code - you probably do not get the job as you will have more cost involved and a higher bid. If you decide to bid with a non compliant installation - you leave yourself open to future potential liabilities, which can include future warranty issues since the AFCI technology is prone to having issues as well as property damage, injury, loss of life litigation should there be a fire and someone brings up the missing AFCI's in the investigation.
With my mixed feelings on AFCI and whether or not they should be required, I have made up my mind I no longer like to do residential work, I used to like residential work, and maybe would consider doing it full time someday, but definitely not as the contractor, let someone else worry about all the lost time and other expenses that can come with this game.