Bath receptacle in bathtub space???

[mistermudd]

If you were an inspector how would you call this one? Bath tub is to the right. And if you had to move the receptacle where would you put it?

My first picture I hope it works.

 

[frizbeedog]

Tell him its for the jacuzzi tub motor

 

[Cavie]

If you were an inspector how would you call this one? Bath tub is to the right. And if you had to move the receptacle where would you put it?

My first picture I hope it works.

Put the receptical in the mirror. It is done everyday.

 

[gndrod]

fix

fix

If you were an inspector how would you call this one? Bath tub is to the right. And if you had to move the receptacle where would you put it?

My first picture I hope it works.

Hi Mrmudd,

Frame out a wall partition between the lav and tub with a new GFCI protected receptacle in the partition side of lav. If asthetics is a concern, a good glazier can wrap the partition with mirror to look high-end. rbj

 

[electricalperson]

put it on the opposite side of the sink

 

[gndrod]

Cavies fix

Cavies fix

Put the receptical in the mirror. It is done everyday.

Didn't see you post while typing. The mirror may be bonded to the wall. That may be a challenge unless the glazier is Dale Chilhuly. rbj

 

[quogueelectric]

Where should the rceptacle go??

Where should the rceptacle go??

If you were an inspector how would you call this one? Bath tub is to the right. And if you had to move the receptacle where would you put it?

My first picture I hope it works.

On the left side of the sink of course!!

 

[Minuteman]

Tell the plumber to move the tub.

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

I am curious.
I see that the receptacle is not a GFCI device. Are there 2 sinks there, with one GFCI protected device by that other sink?
If not, is this a GFCI CBer protected device?

 

[acrwc10]

How could moving the outlet 5 inch's to the left into the mirror going to make it any safer ????????????????
If it is GFI protected I don't see a problem.

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

No one said it would be safer, just code compliant.

 

[gndrod]

fix 3

fix 3

I am curious.
I see that the receptacle is not a GFCI device. Are there 2 sinks there, with one GFCI protected device by that other sink?
If not, is this a GFCI CBer protected device?

Hi Pierre,

Would a soap dish with a GFCI in it work? (I couldn't resist.) rbj

 

[frizbeedog]

How could moving the outlet 5 inch's to the left into the mirror going to make it any safer ????????????????
If it is GFI protected I don't see a problem.

Good Point.

 

[gndrod]

fix

fix

Good Point.

Pierre's spot on. 406.8(C) Bathtub and shower space....Recepts shall not be installed within or directly over a bathtub or shower stall.

 

[mistermudd]

Yeh, two basins GFCI is elsewhere in the house.
Even with GFCI protection do you wanna be in the tub when you make your wife mad and she throws her blow dryer in with you??

NEC 406.8(C) Recept. shall not be installed within or directly over a bathtub or shower stall.

The way I see this one is the receptacle is not directly over the tub but it is within the bath "stall".

If the receptacle was 6" in the mirror it would be code complaint but not any safer.

 

[Minuteman]

Pierre's spot on. 406.8(C) Bathtub and shower space....Recepts shall not be installed within or directly over a bathtub or shower stall.

Yep, that's what it says and moving it 5" would make it code compliant, but... it still won't be one bit safer.

 

[frizbeedog]

Pierre's spot on. 406.8(C) Bathtub and shower space....Recepts shall not be installed within or directly over a bathtub or shower stall.

Wasn't debating that. Still, how is it any safer. Lets go out on a limb. Just for fun.

 

[acrwc10]

This is one of those situations where your inspector can show you just how much of a power trip he needs or doesn't need to have. This is not a tub "stall" if you look at the receptacle it is over the tub "platform" as this is on a granite slab , and it is outside of the outer rim of the tub, if the counter was 3'' longer it would be over the counter.
90.1 Purpose.
(A) Practical Safeguarding. The purpose of this Code is the practical safeguarding of persons and property from hazards arising from the use of electricity.
(B) Adequacy. This Code contains provisions that are considered necessary for safety. Compliance therewith and proper maintenance results in an installation that is essentially free from hazard but not necessarily efficient, convenient, or adequate for good service or future expansion of electrical use.

If the purpose of the code is safety and moving the receptacle doesn't make it "SAFER" why would you go to the letter of the code and not the purpose of the code??????????????????????

 

[mistermudd]

It is safer because the NEC says it is. Must be true. I think!!

 

[frizbeedog]

This is one of those situations where your inspector can show you just how much of a power trip he needs or doesn't need to have. This is not a tub "stall" if you look at the receptacle it is over the tub "platform" as this is on a granite slab , and it is outside of the outer rim of the tub, if the counter was 3'' longer it would be over the counter.
90.1 Purpose.
(A) Practical Safeguarding. The purpose of this Code is the practical safeguarding of persons and property from hazards arising from the use of electricity.
(B) Adequacy. This Code contains provisions that are considered necessary for safety. Compliance therewith and proper maintenance results in an installation that is essentially free from hazard but not necessarily efficient, convenient, or adequate for good service or future expansion of electrical use.

If the purpose of the code is safety and moving the receptacle doesn't make it "SAFER" why would you go to the letter of the code and not the purpose of the code??????????????????????

I like the "Practical Safegaurding" bit.